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| northwest ohio & southeast michigan | coffee is for closers | 06-Jan-2009 11:35 P.M. |
Oral Chelation? Does anybody have any information about this? - There is alot of cardiac disease (plaque build up) in my Dad's side of the family. Hereditary chronic cardiac disease is what they call it.
I saw an ad for this chelation deal. Anybody know anything about it? One of the sites said that it removed plaque from arteries. Which, if true, would probably help my Dad.
posted by katie82640 to health at 4:20 P.M. EST (5 Comments)
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I wouldn't count on this removing plaques from his arteries. If you have a history of cardiac disease (it doesn't necessarily have to be atherosclerotic plaques either...they're just the most common type of familial heart disease) then you need to see a physcian. They can run simple blood tests to determine whether he needs to be on drugs (most likely statins like lipitor that you see on TV). Statins target your body's production of cholesterol and have been proven to reduce plaque load and significantly lower the risks of atherosclerotic heart disease from developing (heart attacks, certain types of strokes, certain types of aneurysms). These drugs are pretty amazing, and the cost of statins has come down too since simvastatin recently began being sold generically.
In general I wouldn't trust anything you can get without a prescription that claims to be a cure for diseasest that modern medicine hasn't cured yet. They're completely unregulated by the FDA and a ton of these companies are in trouble for deceptive advertisement. Reading through this page it sounds like they threw in a bunch of words that most people don't understand to make the product sound good. By the way, heavy metal toxicity is pretty rare.
posted by HeyHey at 08:27 P.M. EST on Mon Jan 22, 2007 #
This is what I recall about chelation therapy...
There are some circumstances where it is considered medically appropriate and a doctor would prescribe it for a patient. (example - certain cases of sickle cell anemia, heavy metal poisoning, certain disorders of metabolism - iron or calcium metabolism disorders, specifically) Its a common enough medical practice that an insurance company would generally provide coverage for the services. (Actually, that's where I have my chelation therapy info from - I used to work for a large health insurance company.)
Chelation therapy is generally considered investigational for other conditions (including cardiac disease, arthritis, diabetes, MS, etc.), although some people are trying it. (Every new treatment is experimental at some point, of course!) But, its certainly not a commonly accepted medical treatment for cardiac conditions.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't look into it, but I absolutely would not do so without the advice of a physician. HeyHey made some very good points about trying some of these nonprescription advertised items and being unregluated by the FDA. If a physician you trust says that it might be worth a try despite still being a newer/investigational type treatment, that's the only circumstance that I would be comfortable trying something like that. Especially since there are a variety of chelating agents on the market - ones that are used for the conditions I mentioned above - and I personally have never heard of this particular product you linked to. I'd be leery of taking any supplement that I didn't know was safe.
If you (or your Dad, I should say) decide to give chelation therapy a try, perhaps it might be better to use a product which is already being used safely to treat other conditions - at least there is some track record of what it might do to your body vs. an unregulated supplement from an advertisement.
posted by mom2 at 11:17 P.M. EST on Mon Jan 22, 2007 #
Hello my name Dee and my husband has a heart problem and is been seen by Dr Michael Moront in Toledo Hospital he is very good and you can go online to get a lot of info on his disease my husband has a mild dilatation of his aorta and he is still work has a construction worker so always get a second oponion.
posted by dgianinodm at 11:37 P.M. EST on Mon Jan 22, 2007 #
You guys always know something - thanks!
Dad has had a quadruple bypass. He walks. Man does he walk. About 30 miles a week. They go on vacation to places so he can walk.
He's mentioned the cardiologist said there was some more plague. He does take some kind of medicine - not sure what it is.
I think I'll mention it to my Mom. SHE can ask the doctor about it.
posted by katie82640 at 11:31 A.M. EST on Tue Jan 23, 2007 #
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posted by blacjac687 at 04:35 P.M. EST on Sun Feb 04, 2007 #