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| northwest ohio & southeast michigan | coffee is for closers | 01-Dec-2008 9:32 P.M. |
Safe trick or treating in Lima - During the two hours Saturday afternoon when kids will be out collecting candy, people convicted of sex crimes will be rounded up and kept under supervision.
Now you KNOW some aclu'ish group is going to scream about that, but I do like the idea...
posted by billy to news at 12:25 P.M. EST (12 Comments)
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I admit is may be intutivily appealing, but first, yes, there are enough civil rights issues to keep the lawyers employed, then you also have the logisitcal issues as well..for starters, where are they going to keep these 125 people, and who is going to watch them?
posted by nkdpagan at 02:38 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
you also have the logisitcal issues as well..for starters, where are they going to keep these 125 people, and who is going to watch them?
it's for two hours - It could be done. ex, Rent out a cinema and show em a movie and stick a cop at each entrance.
posted by billy at 03:40 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
I think this is a stupid idea. First of all, who is paying for it? In all likelihood, the tax payers. Second, I have never allowed my children to go out trick or treating alone. Problem solved. To me, this is something someone in government came up with to make the residents of Lima think they were "doing something." And it does absolutely nothing to protect children from any sex offenders who may not have been convicted yet. So, what's the point? The only thing is accomplishes is giving parents a false sense of security when they should be out with their kids themselves in the first place.
posted by valbee at 05:03 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
Valbee, I tend to agree...children should not be trick or treating unsupervised to begin with. This sounds more like political grand standing.
While Im not a lawyer, Im sure there are numerous legal issues that would have to be over come. Just because someone in a 'sexual offender' does not mean they are without rights like any other citizen. Then there would be hardship issues, such as someone forced to watch a movie when they should at work, or notifiying someone of their detainment when they are out of town.
In the end what good is really served? if the cost of the extra cops, not to mention the subsuquentl legal fees, really doing a better job than what the parents could do?
posted by nkdpagan at 07:12 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
okay...i read the WHOLE article. What this guy is doing is calling in his probatons cases in for their usaual maintiance. Its nothing that they dont have to do anyway, its just the timing that still smacks of political grandstanding
posted by nkdpagan at 07:21 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
Hell, why stop at those convicted of sexual crimes?
* Kids are out walking, so we'd better round up all the people who have had DUIs in the past thirty years. Wouldn't want one of them to relapse and run over a trick-or-treater.
* Those bags of candy might be tempting - better scoop up everyone who has ever been convicted of a theft or robbery crime.
* All those kids making noise might just set off someone who has ever been convicted of aggravated assault. Wouldn't want some rowdy kid getting a loose cannon fired up.
* Hell, all those impressionable young children walking around must be tempting targets for former drug dealers. They could probably get some kid hooked on crack or heroin while Mom and Dad aren't looking - better throw anyone ever convicted of a drug crime in the police van, too!
posted by historymike at 07:25 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
Personally if it's felt any of those who are being rounded up are that dangerous to children then why are they out in the first place?
I also second val's statement, children should not be trick or treating without supervision anyway...
posted by psyche777 at 07:41 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
I also second val's statement, children should not be trick or treating without supervision anyway...
I third.
The hell with sex offenders. The really stupid idea here is trick or treating in the afternoon. What kind of childhood is that? A generation of children who's impression of halloween is trick or treating in broad daylight?
posted by babbleman at 11:29 P.M. EST on Fri Oct 27, 2006 #
out trick or treating alone. Problem solved. To me, this is something someone in government came up with to make the residents of Lima think they were "doing something."
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Bingo.
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The hell with sex offenders. The really stupid idea here is trick or treating in the afternoon. What kind of childhood is that? A generation of children who's impression of halloween is trick or treating in broad daylight?
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Also-bingo. Better get used to it, in light anyway-thanks to the extension of that wonderful daylight savings time next year.
posted by Darkseid at 10:43 A.M. EST on Sat Oct 28, 2006 #
I've got kids who are the trick or treating age. One who is 5 and the other is 8. One of us will be passing out candy at our houuse while the other one is out supervising the kids. Believe me, we will then endure the rants from our neighbors who think that we are over-protective and that our kids (especially the 8 year old) should just be able to run around and "have fun." The fact is that no matter what you do as a parent, someone else will criticize you. I say that so many risks for kids (even with sexual offenders) could be lessened if parents supervised their own children and spent time with them.
posted by corky at 11:49 A.M. EST on Sat Oct 28, 2006 #
Once your kids get to a 'certain' age, they dont want to go out with mom & dad - they want to go with their friends. This is a stupid idea, and serves no purpose. If a child molester is going to try something, he doesnt need to wait for Halloween to do it. And while I have no sympathies for the convicted molesters at all - what if one of them didn't feel well, planned to spend the evening at home, reading a good book? Do they tell him hell no ya can't, pack up your tissues & meds and come with us for the evening?
posted by starling02 at 07:00 P.M. EST on Sat Oct 28, 2006 #
Yes - that's what they're telling them. I googled for and don't recall ever seeing the stats on Halloween activities for child predators. So I'm not sure if there is a rise - IF you were a child predator you would think this would be an opportune time to pick up prey - but has anybody ever read a story on this?
So - given we're a week away from an election, my suspicion is definitely raised.
FYI - there is a site for safe Halloween here - which contains no mention of child predators - I wonder when this was written - I can't recall the last time I even saw a pay phone? It contains this:
# Children should carry quarters so they can call home.
# Ideally, young children of any age should be accompanied by an adult.
# If your children go on their own, be sure they wear a watch, preferably one that can be read in the dark.
Hmmmmm....
posted by katie82640 at 02:19 P.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #