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    July 26, 2007

Possible Return of Neo-Nazis to Toledo - It appears that a neo-Nazi group led by our goofy old friend Bill White may be rallying in Toledo on August 17.

Oh, the happy memories of the North Toledo riot. Nothing like smell of teargas, right campers?


posted by historymike to news at 9:19 A.M. EST     (18 Comments)

Comments ...

any idea where this is going to be? i need to make sure im no where around when it happens
posted by upso at 10:25 A.M. EST on Thu Jul 26, 2007     #

Still digging, upso. I have emails and calls out to a few contacts, but nothing yet.

Bill White's new group is still small, and their main form of agitation is the passing out of flyers by one or two activists. Not sure if we will see a larger group, like the 20++ who showed up 15 October 2005.

Still, the riot was a touchstone for the Nazis. To them it is akin to one of Hitler's Nuremberg rallies. Coming back to Toledo has always been one of their dreams, and they do have at least a half-dozen supporters within a few hours of Toledo.

posted by historymike at 10:37 A.M. EST on Thu Jul 26, 2007     #

ug not again... *puts on hat and locks the doors*
posted by jshriver at 10:41 A.M. EST on Thu Jul 26, 2007     #

Luckily, i will be out of town on that day!
posted by tm at 10:41 A.M. EST on Thu Jul 26, 2007     #

I hope it's 98 degrees and humid. I hear white trash decomposes quickly in the heat.
posted by billy at 10:59 A.M. EST on Thu Jul 26, 2007     #

Gee,I wonder if these Nazis smoke!
posted by buckeye277 at 01:13 P.M. EST on Fri Jul 27, 2007     #

No, Nazi's hate smoking.
posted by billy at 02:33 P.M. EST on Fri Jul 27, 2007     #

So true.
posted by starling02 at 06:54 P.M. EST on Fri Jul 27, 2007     #

The *REAL* shame about it is that the local stations will be playing this up - announcing the where and when - doing EXACTLY what the group wants them to do - give them free publicity!

In my mind, the *REAL* criminals will be the news stations reporting their impending arrival. (The same folks that break into a scheduled program with *BREAKING NEWS* reporting Paris Hilton is out of jail! BFD!!!)

If NO ONE showed up at their little soirée, they'd have no reason to come back to Toledo, would they.

posted by Plantman at 07:39 A.M. EST on Sat Jul 28, 2007     #

If the community could muster the humor, they'd greet these nit wits with open arms and offer iced tea and wafers.
posted by BrianInFlorida at 09:41 A.M. EST on Sat Jul 28, 2007     #

I think if the focus of the government could change from "aggressive as a whole" to "embrace and welcome", you're going to find that situations like this one would be stifled before the spark that it's about to become turns into a repeat.

Just friggen welcome them, host them, get face time on FOX News, embrace them and treat them with warmth and compassion, and those Nazi idiots will be the talk of the country via National Media and the laughingstock in the "racist community".

Because just like the last "riot", after the dust settles, all you'll have left is perspectives because of the news for a week and it dissapates. When you think of Toledo, do you want to be remembered as "RIOT!!!!" or "They gave those nazi's iced tea and ice cream"?

And we all know how Toledo looked the last time we was on FOX News....

posted by BrianInFlorida at 09:50 A.M. EST on Sat Jul 28, 2007     #

Well, lets see if anyone got any smarter. I'm guessing, probably not.

As for the media, sure they'll give them all the publicity they can. They HOPE there is a riot, it makes exciting news.

Maybe the city should require the nazi marchers be escorted by the TPD mounted patrol. (do they still have one?)

Make sure the horses are fed well shortly before. That way the nazi's get to march through horse crap.

posted by JeepMaker at 10:57 A.M. EST on Sun Jul 29, 2007     #


Ever have food sabotaged with Visiene?

Messy. Very. I'm sure you know a victim, I was one. :)

Too creative for our own good, me thinks.

Got oats?

posted by BrianInFlorida at 11:17 A.M. EST on Sun Jul 29, 2007     #

Hmmmm........ Where's a good anti-fascist web site when you need one?
posted by Bbcmjeep43 at 01:54 P.M. EST on Sun Jul 29, 2007     #

Other news ...

Jul 16, 2007 story:

"After numerous delays at the request of prosecutors, the bogus aggravated riot charge against Toledoan Donnell Summers has been dropped. Donnell was arrested during the October 15th [2005] Uprising in Toledo, during which residents and other protesters retaliated against Toledo Police as they - in support of a visiting neo-Nazi organization - attacked the crowd."

Jul 27, 2007 story from North Carolina:

"What arrived in her mailbox Thursday, and in hundreds of others here recently, represents a growing conflict between a Virginia neo-Nazi group and the state NAACP, centered on a white man accused of chasing a black couple with a handgun while yelling racial slurs in June."

"Bill White, co-founder of the American National Socialist Workers' Party, the group that sent the letters, said he and several others will be in court Aug. 8, the next time Anthony Dale Finch will face a judge, to "quietly and peacefully" observe. "If the NAACP holds a rally or a press conference, we will be there to show our opposition," White wrote in an e-mail message."

"Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center, who monitors hate groups, says White's group specializes in racial provocation. White sparked a riot after leading a march, with followers in full Nazi regalia, through a black neighborhood in Toledo, Ohio, in 2005 while part of another group, Potok said. He did the same thing in Orlando, Fla., last year. "If this group comes to town, they have the potential to set off violence," he said."

Jul 28, 2007 Blade story:

"Members of a neo-Nazi group, some of whom apparently have permits to carry concealed firearms, said [Friday] they will march next month through the same North Toledo neighborhood where a demonstration in 2005 sparked a riot."

Jul 29, 2007 WNWO story

"Mayor Carty Finkbeiner released a statement saying he will use any and all legal means to restrict where, when and if this march will take place."

"On Sunday, NBC24 spoke with the Ohio leader of the racist group "The American National Socialist Workers Party." He says they originally planned on going door-to-door in north Toledo, handing out hate literature to white homeowners. However, we're told the mayor's office got an injunction keeping them from passing out information. So, the Neo nazis say they plan on rallying instead."

posted by jr at 06:25 P.M. EST on Sun Jul 29, 2007     #

Sounds about right....

posted by lloyd at 02:39 P.M. EST on Mon Jul 30, 2007     #

Why can't they just confine them to the standard parade route? Or, one confined area? NO neighborhoods should even be allowed to enter. And people stay away, find something else to do that day.
posted by starling02 at 12:46 A.M. EST on Wed Aug 01, 2007     #

According to the Jul 28, 2007 Blade story:

"The leader of the Ohio chapter of the American National Socialist Workers' Party said he will arrive Aug. 17 with up to 20 people in uniforms that include swastika armbands to distribute literature."

Aug 17 is a Friday. The other two Nazi visits in late 2005 were on a Saturday. A good number of people will probably being working during the day of Aug 17. And if work doesn't do it, lists some events planned for Aug 17, including a couple during the day:

Maumee Summer Fair/Taste of Maumee
Event Dates & Time: August 17, 2007 - August 18, 2007; 9 a.m. - 5 p.m.
Event Location: Maumee Summer Fair, Maumee
Event Category: Fairs / Festivals

Noon Tunes
Event Dates & Time: Friday, August 17, 2007; Noon to 1:00 pm
Event Location: Toledo Botanical Garden, Toledo
Event Category: Music / Concerts

Let's Do Lunch (Mark Harris)
Event Dates & Time: Friday, August 17, 2007; Noon to 1:30 PM
Event Location: Town Center at Levis Commons, Perrysburg
Event Category: Music / Concerts

posted by jr at 07:29 A.M. EST on Wed Aug 01, 2007     #

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