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Lucas County Election results - Acrobat PDF file.
posted by jr to politics at 10:06 A.M. EST (15 Comments)
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More lists of election results.
posted by jr at 09:57 A.M. EST on Thu Nov 04, 2004 #
Some results:
President: Bush (R)
U.S. Senate: Voinovich (R)
U.S. Congress
9th District: Kaptur (D)
5th District: Gilmor (R)
4th District: Oxley (R)
Lucas County Commissioner
Gerken (D)
Wozniak (D)
Lucas County Treasurer: Kapszukiwiecz (D)
Lucas County Sheriff: Telb (D)
State of Ohio Issue - Ban Gay Marriage: Yes
State of Michigan Issue - Ban Gay Marriage: Yes
Toledo Issues
Issue 4 - Ammend Smoking Ban: Passed
Issue 5 - Income Tax: Passed
Lucas County Issues
Port Authority Levy: Passed
Mental Health Levy: Passed
Senior Services Levy: Passed
School Issues
Lake: Failed
Rossford: Failed
Toledo: Passed
Sylvania: Passed
Ottawa Hills: Passed
Perrysburg: Passed
Oregon: Passed
Northwood: Passed
Washingtong Local: Passed
Swanton: Passed
Genoa: Passed
posted by jr at 10:14 A.M. EST on Thu Nov 04, 2004 #
Final electoral vote map.
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Breakdown nationally by county.
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Other stats from the USA Today.
Square miles of counties won
Bush 3.28 million
Kerry 741,000
Population (2003) of counties won
Bush 150,9 million
Kerry 103.6 million
Counties won by less than 5 percentage points
Bush 162
Kerry 131
And finally, the "new" map of the U.S. according to bitterness.
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posted by jr at 01:39 P.M. EST on Thu Nov 04, 2004 #
Checking the articles by the Blade's columnists, their disappointment over the presidential election is obvious.
Marilou Johanek - Let pendulum now swing to the 'radical center'
"It iS the mourning after the long night. Half the country is pleased as punch. Half the country wants to punch a hole in the nearest wall. Emotions are raw. Political rage simmers. Rabid partisans who made it real personal and real ugly are either gloating or popping Prozac. I am sick at heart over the results."
"What the country needs most of all is a move to the center. Whether that will or can happen when the neocons of the Bush Administration conspire with the right-wing Republican leadership on Capitol Hill is doubtful, but critical nonetheless. Eventually, I pray, the pendulum will swing to what a friend calls "the radical center" when the public becomes exhausted by life on the political fringe."
"Some assert the election was a ratification of the pendulum swing to the right of Genghis Kahn. It was not. It was ratification of an effective campaign strategy that exploited fear relentlessly to an already apprehensive electorate."
Isn't "right-wing Republican" redundant?
Hey there, who was the party that was running around scaring the youth by saying Bush would reinstate the draft, even though it's been nothing but Democrats who have been talking about bringing back the draft?
Who was the party that was running around scaring old people into thinking that Bush would take away their Social Security?
Minority leaders on behalf of the Democrat party continued to scare people into thinking that something close to slavery would be reinstated if Bush was elected.
Scare tactics? That defined the Kerry campaign.
She continues with more "left-wing liberal Democrat" talking points:
"Even though national security has been severely compromised by the ill-conceived and poorly executed nation-building policies of the Bush Administration, voters were persuaded a change in leadership would be more dangerous."
"As scary as the debacle in Iraq has been, as scary as the President's record on everything from the economy to health care, energy policy and the environment, education to the ballooning deficits, change was perceived as more scary. Karl Rove earned his compensation and then some. Simply put: Voters overlooked the significant shortcomings of the incumbent at the expense of their vital interests because they were afraid not to."
Sounds like she's implying that the voters for Bush are stupid. They were brainwashed. That's what the Europeans are saying too about those who voted for Bush, in case you're wondering.
No. The Bush supporters noticed an even greater number of shortcomings by the alternative.
Now she attacks religious people:
"Eventually public misgivings morphed into a political play for morality. Incredibly, the election seemed to turn on which candidate was perceived to be more "moral" than the other. Evangelical fundamentalism brought the conservative choir to its feet but its religious fervor was selective. Misleading a nation into an unnecessary war that has cost tens of thousands of lives and billions of tax dollars is one thing, gay marriage and abortion are another."
Now she gets really radical:
"Sidling up to corporate contributors with generous tax breaks while schools go begging for money and a family of four slips into poverty on Wal-Mart wages are one thing; a born-again, God-fearing Christian President is another. Grandma may skip meals to buy her medicine, and industry polluters may freely fill the air with noxious fumes that sicken the population downwind, but a President who wears his religion on his sleeve is morally superior to those who take issue with his leadership."
"Maybe I'm going to the wrong church, but I don't get it. What I see is mourning after a long, angry campaign for the White House wrapped in much trepidation for the future. Ironic, isn't it? Fear won the election but now it afflicts half the country worried sick about the prospects of war and peace under the same political management that found its niche in military absolutes and scary delusions of reality."
Ooo, I like that last part, "scary delusions of reality."
Um, which person was stumping at churches every Sunday over the past several weeks? Yes, that was Kerry. What happened to the separation between church and state with that? Kerry said he would take his faith to Washington. Sounds like Kerry was pawinng himself off as a religious person. What about that? Oh wait, it wasn't genuine, right? It was just to get votes, like that phony goose hunting trip in northeast Ohio. I can't believe Kerry killed a poor helpless goose. Oh yeah, Kerry doesn't support gay marriage either. What about that? Kerry also believes life begins at conception, which sounds like a religious stance.
Marilou, we feel your pain. Actually, I don't, but I'll pretend I do. Here's some advice. Go to the theatre. That's live theatre, not the mindless hollyweird movies. Go to one of the metroparks that has the Windows on the Wild setup and watch the birds. Light up a stogie at your favorite bar. Well, you can't do that just yet. Remember, your Democrats control Toledo, Lucas County, and the 9th District. Relax. Chill-out. It will be okay. Promise. And if none of my suggestions help, you can always fall back on Prozac.
The Blade has to find a ray of sunshine somewhere, so they look to Michigan.
Jack Lessenberry, the Blade’s ombudsman, has a piece in today's Blade titled 'The Democrats make significant gains in Michigan.'
"Michigan chose as its President John Kerry, giving him almost as large a mandate as it gave President Al Gore four years ago."
Does that mean John Kerry will now be running Michigan? If not, what the hell is the point of that sentence? Oh right, looking for a bright spot somewhere, anywhere.
"Democrats swept ...
Democrats also scored significant ...
What does this all mean?
Probably it means less that Michigan has moved left of center than that the center has moved away from where Michigan used to be."
It had to pain the ombudsman to admit this next fact, but he gives a conspiracy theory disguised as an explanation:
"Republicans still control both houses of the legislature, and have a solid edge in the delegation to Congress, although that is more due to creative redistricting than anything else."
"The President didn't make a visible dent in Detroit, or among minorities generally."
Duh.
"His candidacy was hopeless in any county that contained a major university."
Double duh. What? Neither one of those points is a new. Nor is it unique to Michigan.
Roberta de Boer's election agony.
"10 a.m. - Conclusion: nobody knows jake about White House race, but my dog's the only American not blogging. Need more coffee."
"2:05 p.m. -Leave gym without succumbing to bake sale. Victory! Also leave gym without having voting right challenged. Oh, piffle. Who challenges middle-age, suburban white women in fine-gauge knits?"
"2:15 p.m. - Stop at Gesu Church polls. Chat with voter protection volunteers out on Ken Blackwell Memorial Sidewalk."
"3 p.m. - At Rosary Cathedral, checking on voting. Meet chatty Chicago lawyer and Democrat, eager to be in battleground Ohio to thwart unwarranted GOP challenges. Well, actually, no. Hasn't seen any. Not yet."
"Nov. 3, 5 a.m. - Ohmyheadhurts. Is hangover possible without alcohol?"
"8:30 a.m. - Check e-mail. "It is pronounced 'doubleyou.' Get used to it." Dude, don't tell me - tell Dubya!"
"(P.S. Any chance you can get him to say "new-clee-ur" while you're at it?)" "
"12 p.m. - Lunch. Campbell's tomato soup. Desperate for American comfort food."
"1:45 p.m. - Senator Kerry concedes: "We're America, and America always moves forward!" Must be true; crawl on bottom of CNN screen says Blue Chip stocks send Dow rising. (Note to self: Make sure to increase pizza delivery tips, now that "working poor" is destined to be a way of life for millions.)"
Oh the agony. So sad that there was nothing for those lawyers to do. Yes, the self-proclaimed tolerant left hates the idea that someone has an accent. Did you know an accent can cause a person to pronounce words a little differently? To the liberal elitist snobs of the north, a southern accent is automatically a sign of ingorance. It's their own form of subtle discrimination.
Outdoor columinst Steve Pollick chimed in with: 'Monster antlered deer surprises successful bowhunter.'
"Bowhunter Rick Willard has bagged a monster buck in western Lucas County. Except that he didn't. It was a monster antlered doe. Well, sort of. Here's the story:"
Finally, something worth reading. Time to get back to what's really important: sports and the outdoors.
posted by jr at 01:00 P.M. EST on Fri Nov 05, 2004 #
This is from Slate.com, so that explains the vitriolic attitude. It's standard operating procedure for the mean-spirited liberals who can't take losing to automatically call Bush supporters stupid. 56 million people are morons, but 53 million aren't. How do you figure? Either all 109 million voters are idiots or none are.
"The election results reflect the decision of the right wing to cultivate and exploit ignorance in the citizenry."
"Here is how ignorance works: First, they put the fear of God into you—if you don't believe in the literal word of the Bible, you will burn in hell. Of course, the literal word of the Bible is tremendously contradictory, and so you must abdicate all critical thinking, and accept a simple but logical system of belief that is dangerous to question. A corollary to this point is that they make sure you understand that Satan resides in the toils and snares of complex thought and so it is best not try it."
"The history of the last four years shows that red state types, above all, do not want to be told what to do—they prefer to be ignorant. As a result, they are virtually unteachable."
"Progressives have only one course of action now: React quickly to every outrage—red state types love to cheat and intimidate, so we have to assume the worst and call them on it every time."
"And in addition, we have to remember that threats to democracy from the right always collapse. Whatever their short-term appeal, they are borne of hubris and hatred, and will destroy their purveyors in the end."
Amazing. This type of attitude filled with name calling and mass generalizations get you nowhere. This is why the Democrats continue to lose seats in the Senate and the House. When you insult millions, people are going to take it out on you by voting for the other party. This type of thinking does nothing to improve the Democrats' chances in the future. So I say, keep it up. I love it. People like this writer don't realize they're writing humor.
posted by jr at 05:31 P.M. EST on Fri Nov 05, 2004 #
The liberals are mad and scared of Karl Rove.
"Rove and Bush neither use nor circumvent, which would require keeping the system intact. They instead are reconfiguring the system in extra-constitutional, theocratic terms. The idea of the United States as an ironfisted theocracy is terrifying, and it should give everyone pause. This time, it's not about policy. This time, for the first time, it's about the nature of American government. We all have reason to be very, very afraid."
posted by jr at 06:02 P.M. EST on Fri Nov 05, 2004 #
Words by NY Times columnist Paul Krugman.
"President Bush isn't a conservative. He's a radical - the leader of a coalition that deeply dislikes America as it is. Part of that coalition wants to tear down the legacy of Franklin Roosevelt, eviscerating Social Security and, eventually, Medicare. Another part wants to break down the barriers between church and state. And thanks to a heavy turnout by evangelical Christians, Mr. Bush has four more years to advance that radical agenda."
"I don't hope for more and worse scandals and failures during Mr. Bush's second term, but I do expect them."
And if they don't happen, the NY Times will surely create them.
" The resurgence of Al Qaeda, the debacle in Iraq, the explosion of the budget deficit and the failure to create jobs weren't things that just happened to occur on Mr. Bush's watch. They were the consequences of bad policies made by people who let ideology trump reality."
I wonder, do these columnists just copy what each other is saying?
"Heads up to readers: I'll be starting a long-planned break next week, to work on a economics textbook. I'll be back in January."
Do you need that much time to write a one-page book that contains only one sentence: Blame conservatives?
posted by jr at 04:30 P.M. EST on Sat Nov 06, 2004 #
The most sensible words come from Bill Clinton.
"Former President Clinton has a message for Democrats inconsolable after President Bush’s re-election: Buck up. It’s not that bad. You need to improve your image."
posted by jr at 05:22 P.M. EST on Sat Nov 06, 2004 #
When Bill "Whups I got my ass impeached!" Clinton says you need to improve your image, you're in serious trouble.
As a voter who was undecided about the presidential race this year, It's funny just how wrong my desires were about the outcome. My main hope was that either one would just win with both the popular and electoral college votes so this nightmare of listening to both sides chatter on with their venomous diatribes would end. I really didn't want to be subjected to more as it dragged on through the courts.
Hoping for that was wrong.
In hindsight, I wish the Democrats would have won and not because I think Kerry would have been so much better than Bush. Republicans simply don't WHINE SO MUCH when they lose.
The British Daily Mirror (Whine factor 8) 'If you don't agree with us, you're stupid!' How mature and well thought out. With such rational attitudes, I can't believe we ever wanted to break free of your empire.
Michael Moore (Whine factor 5) 'Well... Bush didn't win by a lot!' Desperately seeking anything positive, trying to slip into denial.
Marilou Johanek (Whine factor 10) 'Bush used scare tactics that only Democrats are supposed to know about. How dare he! HE STOLE THE ELEC.... wait... Bush won a fair election?' WAAAAAAAH.
Anyone threatening to move to Canada (Whine factor 10) 'If I don't get my way, I'm taking my ball and going home!' If every American who gave up that easily left the country, this would be a better place. Good riddance.
To rabid Republicans like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity: Don't be such smug assholes about this. It wasn't so long ago you got your clocks cleaned by Clinton. There's no such thing as an endless win streak and you'd better be ready to take as well as you dish out.
To weepy or angry Democrats: You lost, get over it. JUST STOP WHINING. Here's an idea. Instead of putting all your energy into electing whoever is chosen during the DNC, put the effort into finding a better candidate BEFORE the convention. Please.
-Dan
posted by photodan at 08:23 P.M. EST on Sat Nov 06, 2004 #
"More than a dozen traumatized John Kerry supporters have sought and received therapy from a licensed Florida psychologist since their candidate lost to President Bush."
posted by jr at 06:08 P.M. EST on Tue Nov 09, 2004 #
If you want to apologize to the rest of the world for living in a country that elected Bush, go to Sorry Everybody and leave a picture of your sorrow.
This guy was going to be John Kerry's National Security Advisor. Someone light that dude's cig.
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posted by jr at 06:29 P.M. EST on Tue Nov 09, 2004 #
Can't have too many maps showing the presidential vote.
"These maps use a color scale that ranges from red for 70% Republican or more, to blue for 70% Democrat or more. This is sort of practical, since there aren't many counties outside that range anyway, but to some extent it also obscures the true balance of red and blue."
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posted by jr at 12:37 P.M. EST on Thu Nov 11, 2004 #
The above above image url points to nowhere, since the owner is mucking with their website.
Here's the map:
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posted by jr at 07:33 P.M. EST on Fri Nov 12, 2004 #
Votes are still being counted. Bush tops 60 million.
posted by jr at 07:44 P.M. EST on Fri Nov 12, 2004 #
A new illness exists: "Post Election Selection Trauma is a real problem, Florida clinicians say."
It's hard to believe this is a real illness and a real news story.
"Mental health officials in South Florida blasted Rush Limbaugh on Monday, saying the conservative talk show host’s offer of “free therapy” for traumatized John Kerry voters has made a mockery of a valid psychological problem."
"The Boca Raton News reported last week that more than 30 distraught Kerry supporters in South Florida contacted the non-profit AHA following their candidate’s Nov. 3 concession to President Bush. AHA officials have diagnosed the disorder as Post Election Selection Trauma (PEST) and have scheduled the first of several free group therapy sessions for just after Thanksgiving."
Unbelievable. I could see this story appearing at The Onion. I think it's time for another flood so the earth can start over.
posted by jr at 01:19 P.M. EST on Tue Nov 16, 2004 #