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    March 5, 2003

Marcy Kaptur claims our Founding Fathers were terrorists - This Blade story was buried in the Religion section from last Saturday, but I didn't see it until today on the Drudge Report where his headline was Congresswoman compares Bin Laden to Founders. I would say this ends all respect, if there was any left, for Marcy Kaptur. This will and should come up again in the fall of 2004 when she's up for re-election. Marcy said, "One could say that Osama bin Laden and these non-nation-state fighters with religious purpose are very similar to those kind of atypical revolutionaries that helped to cast off the British crown." So now terrorists are called non-nation-state fighters? I view this as dangerous, embarrassing, sad, and disgusting thinking. Thanks to our non-nation-state fighters, we have the right to free speech, and obviously in Marcy's case, the right to be ignorant. How is it remotely possible to link the goals of Al Qaeda with those who helped win our freedom over 200 years ago?

Some more quotes from Marcy.

"I think that one thing that people of faith understand about the world of Islam is that the kind of insurgency we see occurring in many of these countries is an act of hope that life will be better using Islam as the only reed that they have to lean on.

I think that people of faith understand that for many of the terrorists, their actions are acts of sacred piety to the point of losing their lives. And I think that people of faith understand that there is a heavy religious overtone to the opposition."

The lifestyle of the world's top terrorist, Khalid Shaikh Mohammed who was captured over the weekend, revealed him to be a hypocrite. He has not been following his own radical form of Islam. He's been a long-time womanizer, which goes against their "religion".

The terrorists have no religion. To say their actions are based in religion is absurd. They make up their own rules as they go. They may slap a religious-type name to themselves or to their philosophy, but that's just marketing hype.

posted by jr to other at 9:20 P.M. EST     (3 Comments)

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The shame for northwest Ohio continues thanks to "our" own Marcy Kaptur. Rush Limbaugh read the Blade story today on his radio show. Rush asked, "What's going on in Ohio?" Not only do we have Kaptur, but he reminded everyone that Ohio is also home to the Cincinnati Bengals. The Bengals owners and fans must be relieved. The armpit of Ohio has now left Cincy.
posted by jr at 05:51 P.M. EST on Thu Mar 06, 2003     #

Latest Blade story about Kaptur's comments.

Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D., Toledo) found herself in political hot water yesterday after Republicans blasted her for remarks in which she seemed to compare Osama bin Laden and al-Qaeda to Americaís founding fathers.

Conservative talk-show host Rush Limbaugh excoriated her on his nationwide radio show yesterday and both the Democrat and the Republican on CNNís Crossfire criticized her, as did the No. 2 House Republican leader, Rep. Tom DeLay (R., Texas).

Lucas County Auditor Larry Kaczala, who is likely to challenge Miss Kaptur next year as she seeks a 12th term, wrote on his campaign stationery that her remarks comparing terrorists to Americaís revolutionaries were "the most outrageous and sick comparison I have ever heard."

In response to the furor, Miss Kaptur released the following statement:

"It appears my statement has been purposefully taken out of context. Partisan political maneuvers, at this serious moment in history, serve neither America nor our quest to conquer this dangerous enemy of free people.

"My comments were intended to point out that what faces us is a rising revolution being felt across repressive regimes of the Arab and Islamic world. That revolution is aimed at casting off the existing order. Not to recognize the magnitude of the fervor that is being turned against America is to ignore the real enemy.

"The American people understand the power of revolution. It is in that context that I referred to the American Revolution. World powers have been born out of revolution. Terrorism in the name of revolution is not acceptable. Ever."

Man, Marcy has more dodge moves than Barry Sanders. She's just insulted everyone's intelligence. How can what she said be taken out of context?

posted by jr at 08:55 A.M. EST on Fri Mar 07, 2003     #

The real problem here, as I see it, is that some wise crack decided to say Marcy had compared Osama to "Founding Fathers" and Larry, the tax collector, Kaczala and leaders in my own Republican Party, BIT.

My read or every story I can find never has Marcy Kaptur equating Washington, Jefferson or Ben Franklin to Osama. It was the Republican Tom DeLay who said that is what she said! Kaptur was discussing the mindset of fighting revolutionaries. Lest we forget we were born out of Revolution and it wasn't pretty back then either.

This is such a silly thing. Agree with the war or not, but calling a public servant we know we can trust unpatriotic or un-American is a disgrace, Larry Kaczala. You shame yourself and our Party when you try to squelch dialogue.

I will cast my first vote for Marcy Kaptur, because my Party crossed the line here.

posted by Guest at 12:30 P.M. EST on Sat Mar 22, 2003     #

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