Don't worry... pay toilets for inmates are just around the corner...
posted by Guest at 09:19 P.M. EST on Tue Feb 15, 2005 #
$250,000.00 is but a drop in the bucket of what the Michigan corrections system spends. I would have to wonder if that slight saving doesn’t actually increase costs as the corrections system has to deal with a bunch of crabby inmates. If the Michigan corrections system really wants to save some money, how about just releasing some of the non-violent drug offenders.
posted by mike2004 at 06:42 A.M. EST on Wed Feb 16, 2005 #
"Sheriff's ban on smoking affects Wood Co. inmates."
It's tough being an inmate these days.
posted by jr at 09:52 A.M. EST on Wed Feb 16, 2005 #
go figure you kill, rob or steal and then your freedom to drink coffee is taken. What is this world coming to? I mean there's nothing like a ciggarette and a cup of coffee to reminise about cutting someones head off or robbing a bank.
posted by Guest at 12:29 P.M. EST on Wed Feb 16, 2005 #
Criminals should get coffee just like everybody else who isn't a criminal, what did they do to deserve this other than committ crimes, and they should get to have their freedom too while were at it.
posted by Guest at 12:31 P.M. EST on Wed Feb 16, 2005 #
Boo Hoo
Are we being a bit cynical?
posted by Guest at 09:52 P.M. EST on Wed Feb 16, 2005 #
Yeah, we better watch it. We might hurt someone's feelings.
posted by jr at 09:31 A.M. EST on Thu Feb 17, 2005 #
Hey I want free coffee from the government, I didn't even committ a crime either and I pay taxes.
posted by Guest at 01:40 P.M. EST on Thu Feb 17, 2005 #
Seems odd to me to pick on one beverage to deny prisoners. What about milk? OJ? Iced-Tea? While we're at it, how about their meals? No more chicken or roast beef in the cafeteria, just spam, tunafish, and bologna. Heck, why not just take it down to the bare minimum: bread, water, and a vegetable here and there? After all, it is ALL free from the government.
....do you see where I'm going with this argument? I sure don't get any of this stuff for free, and the prison is not a club med, but at least provide the inmates with a square meal. We're not talking about taking away Prime Rib Friday, HBO, or something excessive here... it's coffee! It just seems so trivial...
posted by timault at 01:50 P.M. EST on Thu Feb 17, 2005 #
Take it away, a prisoner will probably get addicted to coffee, claim it's the governments fault, and make milloions suing. Oh by the way coffee does have caffine in it and caffine is actually bad for you, believe it or not.
posted by Kmorgan at 02:28 P.M. EST on Thu Feb 17, 2005 #
All this "free" coffee the state wants to take away is actually 1/2 cup of lousy instant syrup type coffee with water added to it and it is ONLY served at breakfast. Most of the inmates don't even drink it. How the state expects to save $250,000 by doing this is beyond me. Another way to dupe the public into thinking the are doing a terrific job.
Oh, by the way, do you know the State of Michigan actually expends a whole $2.50 per day to feed each inmate. What would your meals be like if they only cost $2.50 PER DAY.
It is not the taking it away that bugs me. It is the big deal they are making about doing it so as to look so grand in the eye of the public that makes me angry.
posted by Guest at 05:43 P.M. EST on Thu Feb 17, 2005 #
It might be 2.50 a meal but they save because I'm sure they buy in bulk
posted by Guest at 01:18 A.M. EST on Fri Feb 18, 2005 #
Hey JR who makes the coffee that they give at prisons what company?
posted by Kmorgan at 01:37 A.M. EST on Fri Feb 18, 2005 #
If your meals were bought and arranged in bulk, $2.50/day is not bad. I have figured out that by selectively shopping at places like Sam's and Kroger's, you as an individual can prepare a good cooked dinner for about $1.00 for materials (energy cost is negligible, and your own labor cost is free). Prisoners are in no danger of starvation ... considering those who indulge in weight-lifting while imprisoned, we can clearly see that this is true.
Prisoners have had their liberties taken away. The least we can do is feed them properly while in prison. Coffee, however, is not required for metabolism. It appears that instant coffee is available for purchase (although I'd probably be critical of the prices), and I can't imagine that prisoner-owned coffee-makers can't be setup in common areas in a prison. Since prisoner management of common areas would fall under the mandate of "responsibility under rehabilitation", I encourage this.
posted by GuestZero at 05:04 P.M. EST on Sun Feb 20, 2005 #
The real kicker here is that you said bootcamps are giving up on coffee. That one bothers me.
posted by Kmorgan at 02:00 A.M. EST on Wed Feb 23, 2005 #
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