Yeah, but it's "calm" water.
posted by JeepMaker at 08:01 P.M. EST on Tue Sep 12, 2006 #
and turning male fish into females? I can kind of figure out how the drugs are getting into the water - ugh.
posted by katie82640 at 08:09 P.M. EST on Tue Sep 12, 2006 #
If you woke up one day and found out you were the opposite sex, you'd need some Prozac too.
Ba-dum-pshh.
posted by TheTalentedMrC at 07:58 A.M. EST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 #
So I take it......transsexual males who take Prozac might not have to make that "trip to Sweden" ;-)
Sorry, couldn't resist.
posted by Musician at 03:04 P.M. EST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 #
snickering here.....
posted by katie82640 at 04:00 P.M. EST on Wed Sep 13, 2006 #
Most waterlife testing by federal agencies was defunded soon after Bush II. Last Monday we placed a call to federal headquarters for an updated list on current waterlife research [on vacation, yet to receive callback]. Last 2nd Thursday we had the monthly meeting of Maumee Bay Waterkeepers Association at UT Lake Erie Environmental Center, 7pm each month.
Pissing patented FDA approved pharmaceuticals into our drinking water is a frightening scenario - just look at OurStolenFuture.com and how human fetuses get differently wired nervous systems, e.g. various "Deficit Disorders", hyperactivity, etc. No wonder our kids don't learn the same way we did.
We're setting up cultural chemical signals a'la beehives and ant colonies [imagine Queen Bee Bush III].
I have a Ph.D. in Biophysics and was in the medical analysis industry as a chief engineer for 15 years.
"Our Stolen Future" is the "Silent Spring" of the '90s - one coauther spoke in Doerman Theater in 1998. Toledoans like to put their heads in the [dirty] sand.
Onwards TPS [education?].
posted by robertbrundage at 04:05 P.M. EST on Sat Sep 16, 2006 #
Robert,
Not only has EPA been defunded, but so has the N.I.H. I believe we are still facing the first failure to increase N.I.H. funding since the "War on Cancer" was started. I challenge all who may attend the U.T. Lake Erie Environmental Center, to look at the satellite photos on the wall in room 115. It clearly depicts the magnitude of the problem with huge plumes of farm runoff flowing to our drinking water intake.
But back to Bush, he has, according to the Natural Resources Defense Council, taken an action against human health and the environment, each day of his terms in office. Usually he accomplishes this without the consent of congress, by changing the administrative rules which dictate how a law is to be enforced.
His rollback of the clean air act are killing 23,000 American men women and children every year. Thats more than Bin Laden managed to kill, and this rollback, kills 23,000 every year. Who is the terrorist then?
I'd call your attention to the proposed coke plant in Oregon as a perfect example. Both EPA and the secret owners of the project claim that the new technology they use is cleaner than the old coke plant (now closed) on Front St. They fail to mention that the size of the plant dictates that they will burn and cook much more coal to make coke. The result is that the plant would put out several times more nitrous oxides, sulphur oxides, and particulates. Sierra Club has managed to bring the mercury levels down to around 50lbs a year instead of almost 600lbs. But really, do we need any more mercury in the lake? Do the New England states need any more in their water supplies and lakes. The acid rain there is such that finding a lake with fish in it is an oddity.
Please take a look at Envirosafe, leaking toxins into the groundwater that flows directly into Lake Erie. A very short trip, I might add, about a mile from the lake. They are going to expand , while the old cells leak into the lake. The Maumee River and Lake Erie are no place for dumps, no dumps should be allowed to exist if their groundwater or surface water flow goes to Lake Erie or its tributaries. Eleven million humans rely on it for drinking water. Is that why so many of them are sick? If you follow the historical money trail with regard to this dump, you will find a lot of political intrigue.
Bush, with his budget axe, has ordered the closiing of 28 United States EPA libraries that contain critical research data. I believe these libraries are being closed to deny you the right to know about what is in your drinking water and in the air you breathe.
He is also closing the libraries because several states are suing the U.S. EPA for not enforcing the federal clean air act. The data and research will be trucked to warehouses, with no system of organization , and of course no librarians. This will make it hard for the plantiff states and Sierra Club to discover evidence. The question before the court is: Did/does, the U.S. EPA know that greenhouse gases cause harm to human beings and their general welfare? The answer of course is "YES". But, Bush is hiding the evidence by failing to digitize research papers and stuffing the existing research into warehouses with no access available to the public. U.S. EPA researchers are warning that they will have no basis to stand on for future research and will not be able to avoid duplication of research already done.
If Toledo is to flourish, Mayor Finkbeiner and City Council, must find creative ways to reclaim the riverfront in Toledo. Currently, if you take a boat ride (The Sandpiper) from the High Level Bridge, to the Lake you will see almost ZERO public access to the river. Before people will care about water quality, you MUST give them back their river. Currently industry owns it all, and there is very little of it that you can walk along, in spite of a couple thousand years of littoral rights decisions that guarantee your right to do so. Notice now that a group of homeowners on the lakefront are threatening your right to walk the lake and other rivers and streams. The injustice that exist along the river, they want to make it law. We really need to fight this. When the river and the Lake belong to everyone again,, EVERYONE will care about them. Restore Toledo, restore our right to use the rivers, lakes, and streams.
posted by prime3end at 07:10 P.M. EST on Sun Sep 17, 2006 #
I think the last two posts have valid points.
I hope the environmental situation doesn't disintegrate into which administration is the worst w/ripping the guts out of large government entities that function not at all, but in the best case scenarios - merely don't impede progress. If all you care about is assigning blame - you'll be at it for the rest of your life dishing out a healthy helping to all.
I'd like to see some more dialogue about how to turn the situation around. It'd be hard to explain to our grandkids how the whole planet went to shit while we all sat around doing not much other than fighting about politics....but maybe that'll fix things. Just doesn't seem like it will to me.
posted by katie82640 at 03:25 P.M. EST on Wed Sep 20, 2006 #
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