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| northwest ohio & southeast michigan | coffee is for closers | 08-Sep-2008 6:28 A.M. |
Regionalism vs Unigov - There is confusion about what constitutes regionalism as opposed to Unigov. Unigov is easier to define: It is a combination of City/County Govt.. It has been sucessful in places like Indianapolis, which is located in the center of Indiana.
Regionalism, in most cases, involves more than one county. Silicon Valley is a region. New England is a region. The Research Triangle is a region, consisting of Raleigh, Durham and Chappel Hill.
In Ohio, Cincinnati has been a successful region that includes parts of Kentucky and southeast Indiana. Globally it identifies itself as Cincinnati,USA.
What's best for Toledo? Not Unigov. Lucas County has been losing population since 1982. The metro area,( Fulton, Lucas, Monroe and Wood) Have only grown by 5% in the last 30 years. Last year, we ranked as 195th out of 200 metro areas.
Our geography gives us several sustainable competitive advantages in the global environment. What's the best way to capitalize on them?
posted by lew to commentary at 12:54 P.M. EST (6 Comments)
Comments ...
Let's not kid ourselves. Unigov is just another attempt to collectivize the area economic governance under a larger entity capable of pulling off larger stunts and larger corruptions, all the while less beholden to the voters.
I am not sure what will happen with it. I'm completely convinced that the Toledo city government is salivating a bit over the income streams derived from taxing the areas of "population outsourcing" that has bled the life from Toledo in part. But equally so, Toledo's politicians may not end up on top of a Unigov structure ... hence, some hesitation.
We may be saved by the outlying populations ix-naying Unigov since it can only be a losing proposition for them with Toledo's decay (an economic black hole) sucking benefits inward. If places like Perrysburg lose their political will, Unigov will probably happen, I'm betting.
The Cincinnati example is probably "workable" only in Cinci since it is a Republican stronghold. Things economic there happen by mandate, not populism. Home-ownership is about 35% in Cinci, so that strongly indicates a slave population (i.e. enslaved to an economic system they cannot choose to be more independent of), but unlike Toledo (home-ownership 65%), many of Cincinnatians are well paid professionals, thus producing the economic force we notice. Cinci is no act to follow, folks ... even if we could.
posted by GuestZero at 08:41 P.M. EST on Sat Feb 26, 2005 #
Around here, the governmental lines are in conflict with the (economically defined) naturally occurring regional boundaries, making the situation rife with governments stepping on each other's toes.
One good regional govennment could go a very long way towards turning the typical government generated inactivity into a positive, user friendly place to work and live.
And, as a side benefit, there would be all of those now unemployed former burrocrats to seek out new productive, non-tax draining livelyhoods. Of course, we'd have to retrain them to function/work in the REAL world;-)
Now for the new region's name:
Lake Eriea
Motownia
Midwestburg
This isn't working out. Gotta be more positive!
Taxlessia
Taxlightea
Not too much governmentia
Maybe something like that!
I'll get my PR people right on it... As soon asa we get the too much government part worked out :-)
posted by Hooda_Thunkit at 12:26 P.M. EST on Mon Feb 28, 2005 #
For regionalism, it would be the Ann Arbor-Detroit-Toledo triangle, right?
A Guest user earlier this month mentioned:
Lake Erie West
"Lake Erie West, a regional organization, is a catalyst for both the public and private sectors to assist in sponsoring, promoting, and implementing a myriad of projects and events that promote the region."
posted by jr at 05:23 P.M. EST on Mon Feb 28, 2005 #
There appears to be some concern about the size of the region. It's very small when compared to New England. (They keep winning Super Bowls).
How big is Silicon Valley? How far north,south,east and west does it go?I do know that it has fueled the growth of San Jose.
posted by lew at 02:23 A.M. EST on Tue Mar 01, 2005 #
Just found out that Silicon Valley is about 100 miles long by 50 miles wide. It's about the same size as Lake Erie West.
posted by lew at 11:12 A.M. EST on Thu Mar 03, 2005 #
In the Toledo context, "unigov" et alia is merely a power grab by the Toledo politicos, read Democratic machine, to get its grimy hands onto the 'burbs.
What they couldn't do by annexation etc., they'd like to do via "unigov."
So, if you live in a Toledo 'burb and you want to be just like Toledo, vote "unigov."
swd
posted by swd at 06:18 P.M. EST on Fri Mar 18, 2005 #