Ok here are my raw notes. I just previewed them to make some sense and did a spell check. They may be messy.
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5:35 pm meeting began.
Sandra Brasington presented an award to the previous treasurer, presented to less than 5% of audits. Presented on behalf of auditor Betty Montgomery.
They also received a reward from OSBA in financial accounting. Great sign previous treasurer did a food job.
There was a presentation on Early College HS. Presentation by some faculty and students. Went through presentation on overview of Toledo Early College HS. HS at Com-Tech campus Toledo. Can earn up to 60 college hours. 60% would at least have 60 credit hours when they graduate. It is a Gates project. 80% from Toledo Public Schools. 97% attendance rate. 19 students learned 68 credit hours. District says they are not skimming best students. Kids don't work toward associates, credits are toward bachelors. What makes the school different, Rigorous Curriculum. Programs are interdisciplinary. Also based upon relationships; a small school.
5:49 pm
Relevance with community partnerships. Collaborations with UT. Lowe’s gave them a 25k grant to build an outside classroom. 150 students and will keep adding classes until they get around 400. Some students talked about their experiences. Listen to the audio to hear their experiences.
A UT rep said that they are proud that it is part of the U community.
6:04 PM
Sykes I would like to commend you for what you are doing. Came back from a conference and the two hottest topics were how to earn college credits. Problems students were having been in math and science students. He did not know there was a significant way to teach math. When you are doing good many people don't recognize it.
Recognized the previous principal.
6:08 Announce retirees. Announce appointments.
6:11 PM Citizens comments
Carol Marrisay (sp?) - Representing Beverley School.
Some of the good things. Important for both sides to hear from a concerned parent and shareholder. He wanted to speak about the good things, Beverley. They chose the area based upon Beverly. Strong schools make strong neighborhoods. Both a product of communities. There are good things happening. Wants to see out the good stories of what this district is capable of.
Kim Dillaway (sp?) - Co-Vice President Beverly PTO. Wants to talk about the positive things that happen. Wanted to give Beverly a try, best decision. PTO is involved in School and all are invited to attend PTO. Care is the word. Care for the teacher. They want everyone to participate. Teacher appreciation is so little expressed teachers get frustrated. Wanted to thank every teacher at the school.
43:45 Pete Culp – First of all I would like to say I am here in a different capacity I heard in our community. This board needs to understand you need to quit acting like children. One of the things that we need to stop doing, our children cannot afford to be in a hiatus period right now. The need to be pursuing academic excellence. You need to embrace this current administration, I think if they if they lived 100 miles away they would be considered excellent people to run our particular school system. They can work with the unions to overcome some of the things that are bad. People who oppose diversity, integration and affirmative action use you as the plural(?) to see why integration and diversity do not work. You cannot continue to operate in a vacuum. You must begin to embrace diversity as something that works well not bad. Even though we look at our school children that are 70% minority and may be the opposite that diversity cannot work. We spend too much time putting on color rather than substance. You need to develop a better plan of action with our current city administration. We are talking about keeping young people here not brain drain. Look at an employee assistance-housing program. The city grants you 500k – 1 million per house every time a new school comes before city council. Those are things you can’t be ignorant of. You need to work with the city admin. Have the same covenant with UT as they build their science technology corridor. If TPS fails the whole region fails not just public schools. There are a lot of businesses right now, you can talk to LCIC and port authority. People do not want to come here because of your behavior. If I did not know better, you have become the greatest marketing tool for charter schools with your behavior. Thank you.
Chris Barrid (sp?) - Has gifts and want to thank them for everything they do. Handed out cups to everyone up front. Have great volunteers, have a great fundraiser coming up with Toledo Zoo. Byrnedale School did well sports. Created a Web site for PTO and would encourage all of you to come to the school. Put together a PTO and let you know the great things happening.
Katrina Moore - Grad of SHS. Support Small Schools. She like the 4 schools because it is more hands on and there is a more of a personal relationship. The discipline and all of the school leaders work together.
Lynnete Alexander - Keep Small Schools because teachers are involved in academic success. Teachers are one on one in making sure they pass class. Other schools don't help as much. Grades improved. Even though it is last year it is great for the current and future generations.
Lucas Borkman - in BTI gone to Scott 3 years. Explained his experiences and the positives of the small schools. He always wanted to be a businessperson. School is like a big family.
Robert Jackson - Scott HS BTI. Talked about his positive experiences at SHS.
Larry Sykes went back and shook the hands of the students that talked.
Twila Paige - wanted to talk about Scott HS facade has not been fixed. Have known about this since August. Cost is a hold up. Scott students are not worth it? She talked about the suspensions and expulsions. Playing race card? No, Black males are treated differently than others. Waite some white girls were given counseling. Representing a black male student and who had troubles. Why would you all not want a child to succeed? What would it take to see the impact? Could she get an answer about the facade for Scott?
Dan Romano said they did contract it.
Larry Sykes said that it was not as bad as presented. Larry said it has been taken care of; the work is done. Darlene said she would like to get confirmation.
Lisa Sobecki -Tonight to address board as chairperson of parent congress. Met and set goals. Wanted to let know what we are working on. Goal 1 is communication. Work on doing parent summit this year. We can hit on the areas for learning communities. Increase parent participation. All members engage school to let them know what parent congress is. Positive press, the district doesn't get so much positive out there. A lot of negative, need to get positive press out. Networking schools together to see what would work together. Legislation 101 want to break it down to state and local levels. Great board and all excited. Wanted to invite everyone to the parent congress meetings.
Paige Oleck. 3rd grade student at Navarre. Have many things during school and after school. Our teachers always recognize our achievements. I wanted to thank them for all they do.
Daniel Klienfelter - 5thgrader at Navarre. We like the after school activities. Were excited for the new school being built. Mom thinks Navarre is a great school. She thinks they are doing a great job. Navarre first school to reach effective.
Robert Brundage - Alma matter is Robinson and Scott. Sctletke (sp?) report is on tpsinfo.com in looking at positive thinks and placing them in total context of the report.
6:49 PM
Org input -
TAAP: Add to congratulations. Congratulate super and staff on aggressive recruitment and retention. Navarre was first to become effective. Have second ranked school in the State. He cannot believe how advanced we are. They are making presentations on things we have done.
TFT: Early College HS presentation. Referred to by KnowledgeWorks as the model for early college HS. Beverly jumped two categories and Byrnedale lead the pack with continuous improvement. Congratulated students.
AFSME: Nice to have someone positive as opposed to people saying things negative.
6:52 PM
Finance committee met. 5 year forecast.
Steel: Curriculum Committee. Met to discuss initiatives that have contributed to improvement. If enhanced and implemented across the district. One thing inspired by is data driven instruction. Pretest. Standards based.
(Room was full but then emptied out by the time reports started. )
They had a closed meeting with presentation at Navarre. About collaboration at school. At classroom level how this information can be used to help each particular student. Barnett wanted to add the number of hours teachers and principals put in. ETS assessments how are they shared Darlene asked. Could be Steel responded. School improvement plans. They wanted to push school improvement teams.
Policy - Torres. Kilbride talked about the uniform policy and hearing process. A couple of additional items was building use Torres said. Need to revisit policy on requests. Hearings appeals to the board of education. They don't have a recommendation. The received information on SES services. Video streaming also discussed different was and talked about access for streaming. Looking at the feasibility of it and will send a recommendation. There was no need to change policy on executive session. Fisher for next policy will have votes on streaming.
Sykes asked about building for community use. Have you talked about charging you a fee? There is language. Sykes wanted to know more about video streaming. Kilbride did contact different vendors. Policies did not prohibited to streaming of meetings. It is a matter to be referred to in budget and services and tech. Some policies are updated OFSC can review manual and be sure it is up-to-date. Sykes asked if we already asked that. Torres said it would be good to have policies on Web server for community. Historically each board member was given a book. There was a cost. Sykes wanted clarification on streaming. Torres pretty close to setting it up. Cost is low and it would be possible to provide this service. Torres said it could capture some of the discussion and our opportunity to capture it and use it to tell the story. Sykes what does it do what does it cost? Sykes said he did not know anything about it he just read about it in the newspaper. What you will you get? What are the benefits? Foley said it was two issues. Policy does not preclude it. There is also a cost of employees, and to see if the stream meets the letter of the law. They have a report from a provider can give it to the board. Torres said that they would bring it for a vote the November meeting.
Fisher talked about policies online. OSBA would review all policies and make recommendations on which ones are updated and outdated. Can put it on Intranet.
Sykes - Building for success. Elmhurst elementary school 7.8 mil, Glenwood bids Romano.
Sykes looked at other costs and facilities. Romano said that they were talking about costs. Safety and security. Barnett said are we looking into evacuation drill? Romano: For each school there is an evacuation plan. Foley said it is a requirement to develop plans.
Sykes: Visitors should get a background check. There are problems with walk-ins.
Ellis: HB 422 is driving safety plans. That will be an issue the HD is pursuing.
Fisher: Sykes and Foley could we get another update on the oversight committee?
Fisher: super search and treasurer search. Small group meetings and public forums scheduled. Fisher asked Steven Steel about updates on goals. He said he did not have anything.
Fisher - call for approval of minutes
7:19 PM
Superintendent report.
Foley discussed:
-Donations
-HS Graduate listings with corrections.
-Authorization of funds for activities.
-Middle school science comm.
-Substitute rates-impact collective barganing. Sub not a part of collective bargaining agreement. Sets a different rate for retirees. First choice to hire sub. Have had authority.
-Torres had question about contracts. Wall collapse. What is background? Sykes said they have information and they are blamed a minority. Romano said he has the information.
Sykes said he would like board get all information before speaking. Torres are they bonded and reputable. Romano said as the bids are collected they submit paperwork. Const manager makes recommendation. Torres on a prior contractor the recommendation was no. All put before there is a recommendation. Sykes just because one is not recommended it does not mean they are not qualified. Foley said that there was additional information found.
7:30PM
Incident last week was a construction accident
Sykes wanted the board to get information on before making statements. It is not the minority contractor that built the wall. Torres said he does not know what he is referring to. Fisher ended the conversation.
-Supplemental funding.
-Recruitment paid off. Many groundbreakings.
-Foley wanted to present some community forums to talk about school findings. It is complicated and to explain why the building process can't be used to. Hearing funding and how that impacts. Educate public on needs and issues.
Sykes: Foley and McClellan did a great job presenting at the conference. In the future talk about what we have and what we do. Construction, where are we at Pearson center? What are we doing with positions we need to fill? Open positions based upon who has expertise.
7:40
Romano: Fill positions they recommend to be filled. Sykes wanted to remind everyone the partnership. Having people who can fill in if someone is gone is important. Need to have cross training.
Next the board wanted to remove the motion about board development from the table.
Steel: Reiterated table to let the process that Ms. Barnett started.
Barnett: Status is program is ready to be rolled out. Fisher spoke with Brown roll out development program. (The Toledo Chamber has developed a program to work with the board members. )
Steel: What would be the purpose of contracting with OSBA? Cost?
Fisher: Cost with similar org, proposal would participate after this year. ????? Would help us set our goals. Will cost $1k. Would come out of service fund.
Barnett said the program is part of goal setting. Get together establish roles and understand board members. When we talk about OSBA what type of time commitment?
Sykes said he is totally lost. Thought to bring it back to remove from the table and not vote on it. He said Darlene blamed Barnett for not having it set up. We would not be voting on it.
Fisher wanted to vote to adopt it.
Sykes wanted to be clear about the proposal.
Torres said he received information this morning. Spoke to great lengths on what is going on. Time constraints, what you are presenting there are lots of time. Wanted to hold off his support of the process.
Barnett: Robert to make it clear when you say they dropped the ball. They have been active in trying to contact.
Robert: said he received the info today. Did not mean anything by it. He did note that the process not public, wouldn’t come to light and some issues and stipulations that merit discussion.
Barnett if we come together as a board, it is public. (the OSBA training would be public held during a retreat).
Torres to Barnett, you invalidated the presentation because it is not public.
Fisher: OSBA 3 hr retreat to work together to agree to some things.
Sykes: Wanted a 5-minute break he was angry.
7:52 PM Steel said our time is of the essence and duplication is not needed. When have a foundation and major university willing to help. Take advantage of opportunity instead of having an additional set of training. Wants to be clear coming together for children is essential.
Fisher: What is the time allotment 5-6 weeks? Barnett: A couple of hours a quarter. 3 HR session to provide work.
Sykes: What you are doing is contradicting your purpose?
Fisher: It will complement process.
Board voted to decline having OSBA offer assistance 3-2 (fisher, Torres).
Treasurer Report:
-Pay for conference out of community service fund. ?????
-Pull out of tax sharing. Washington local is also leaving agreement. There was no reaction from the city. Continue enterprise zones.
8:03 PM
-Treasurer forecast. Lay groundwork for taxes and leads to the annual reporting in June. It is a fluid document. Can change in a day. As you go through the 5 years it gets fuzzier on the days out not to know what happens with State.
-Flat revenue and increasing expenditures. No exception, included increase in auditor.
Salaries and benefits plugged in step increases. New money is still a liability. In order to balance board will reduce 12 million in cuts in order to balance budget. Another 12 mill in 08 and 109 in 2011.
-Next adjustment does not take away need to address deficit.
Sykes: Did we ask for new buses in this budget?
Fisher: Passed a resolution several months ago. Any other questions?
Sykes: Would it be smart to target a particular amount of students to retain and look at what it takes to maintain the system?
Foley: We are still bleeding. I think that he projected students remain constant. We don't know the new budget and what legislative action will be.
Sykes: We are getting darn close to looking at passing levy. Does not know where we are? We need to address and need to start looking at.
Fisher asked Foley speak to it.
Sykes immediately said Foley should not talk about it, you should Ms. Fisher.
Foley continued to answer and said he would like some direction. Has not talked about a Feb election with advisors. (I thought they voted last time to have the Super develop a plan?)
Fisher has been discussing with Foley and Romano ways to address budget deficit.
Foley said he wanted the board to approve the recommendation.
Sykes asked what is the plan? Fisher said it could be part of the insurance fund.
Torres said that there was a strategy to address deficit. He said we could talk to super at the time. Super wants us to take action on the forecast.
Sykes: Are we or are we not going to put a levy?
Fisher said that we need to look at all options. Romano suggested do what we did in 1992, which means the board worked on decision based budgeting. For every budget item its effects were presented.
Darlene also said there was a public Web site out there that had ideas to look on how to ideas to save money. Darlene handed out a list of 101 recommendations from the State of Texas on how districts can save money. She said it was forwarded to the site. We can examine ideas and move the process up.
Sykes asked Darlene to look at the plaque. We are top school districts in balancing budget?
Fisher said she is not questioning balancing, she is questioning efficiencies. She said we should vote to adopt 5 year forecast.
Sykes are we going to put on a levy?
Torres said not prepared to support levy in Feb. Foley has been honest and now have support.
Sykes appreciated Torres’ honesty. He then turned to Ms. Fisher what is your answer?
Sykes demanded to know if they want to put a levy on in February.
Fisher said she was working on a plan to address deficit.
Fisher: Any other comments from board members?
Meeting was adjourned.
posted by chrismyers at 12:07 A.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Smaller 25 MB audio file can be downloaded here.
Want even smaller? Download the 10 MB audio file here.
Both are mp4 files. Should play anywhere, but if you have troubles use QuickTime.
posted by chrismyers at 12:09 A.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Thank you Chris, as always, for your diligence...
Did I read that correctly: Sykes wants visitors to the Board meetings to undergo background checks??? Hell, every single member on that Board should go though a background check first, starting with Sykes!
posted by MrsPhoenix at 07:47 A.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
We have the October 30, 2006 five year financial forecast posted at tpsinfo.com - see items of interest and/or the October 31, 2006 entry. We have some homework to do but we don't believe these numbers. I believe this forecast may have become a "political tool" to support a call for a new levy next year. It's time to dig into the details.
TPS is holding public forums to "educate area residents about the district's operations and its finances". The forums are all at 6 pm:
November 1, 2006 - Bowsher HS
November 2, 2006 - Start HS
November 15, 2006 - Rogers HS
November 20, 2006 - Scott HS
It will be interesting to see how they handle questions from the community and in what kind of detail.
posted by sflagg at 08:02 A.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
MrsP - I think Sykes is referring to visitors to schools. If "walk ins" need background checks, I guess we better get one on every parent of the 29,000 plus students (well not every one of them since some never set foot in their child's school - assuming they would be welcome if they did). So who is going to pay for all of these background checks? Regular school volunteers, I believe, already must get a background check. Much as we want to protect children, this suggestion is not practicable.
posted by sflagg at 08:09 A.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Yes - Mr. Sykes was referring to visitors in the schools - he said that we need to know who comes into our schools. Very true.
I'm uploading the tape - I thought it was a very calm, very lonnnnnnnnnng meeting. I really enjoyed the presentation by the Toledo Early College High School and several people had very positive comments and news at the start of the meeting. It was good to hear them. There was a third grade student who spoke about her school, among others. Very eloquently. She was adorable.
In my opinion the only points of contention were that Mrs. Barnett and Mr. Sykes vocalized that they don't want to utilize the OSBA service for a 3 hour meeting on how the board could learn to work together. It was confusing because Mrs. Barnett has an option with a local contact of hers and prefers the 5 to 6 week course with her own person yet Mrs. Barnett's complaint about the OSBA service was that the three hour meeting may be too time consuming.
Further confusing the issue is that Mr. Sykes complained that it was not worth the investment if a free service is available locally. Also confusing because one of the other issues on the agenda was an additional $2500.00 plus for Mr. Syes to travel. Mr. Sykes has told Mrs. Fisher at a recent board meeting that travel isn't necessary because 'other people come to see what Toledo is doing, we don't go to see what other people are doing'. But those travel costs are in excess of the amount needed to pay the fees for the OSBA service - and I would think that would be a priority for all the board members.
After observing these meetings, I would say both, any and all services should be utilized. One of the board members constantly interrupt the meetings without being recognized, brings up issues that are not on the agenda and stalls the meetings with those control tactics.
It really makes these meetings drag on and it is presuming on other peoples' time to hold up an entire meeting for so many attendees. Last night was over three hours.
If board members have off topic questions they should wait for the time that questions are called for or make a note and follow up later. There are rules of conduct for members in a formal board meeting.
The second issue is that Mr. Sykes wanted to discuss a tax levy to cover the projected budget deficit.
Some interesting things from the Blade column (And I don't see Ignazio Messina's byline on the column online - so possibly he wasn't able to write the column and someone tried to piece it together from his notes? Don't have an explanation for this)
I did hear "Interim Treasurer Daniel Griscom said the school system is facing the same problem most districts in Ohio face: flat revenue with increasing costs." which lead to the discussion about how the figures were put together with respect to how many students were projected. The projections were created without a projected pupil loss.
I did hear discussion where Mr. Sykes pointedly, repeatedly and out of order, asked Mrs. Fisher if they were 'putting a levy on' in February - and she responded that the budget needed to be inspected and any excess cut as the first order before addressing the matter of a levy. Mr. Sykes just kept saying 'Well that's what I want to know, are we putting a levy on?"
Mrs. Fisher responded that the district could not go on 'spending the way that it does'. But Mr. Sykes only wanted to talk about a levy.
From the Blade column I did not hear this "Board member Larry Sykes questioned fellow board members about putting a tax levy before voters on the February ballot."
Um, that'd be a NO. First - Mr. Sykes stated that he was questioning Mrs. Fisher, when she asked Mr. Foley for input Mr. Sykes interrupted and corrected that he was not asking Mr. Foley - or anyone else - he was asking only Mrs. Fisher.
The levy was not on last nights' agenda and what WAS open for discussion was the government required 5 year budget projections. Mr. Sykes brought a topic up that was not on the agenda and demanded answers, when it is unreasonable to have prepared answers for a matter that in not appropriate for discussion.
This line is INcorrect: "Ms. Fisher alluded during the meeting to one option to reduce the budget. But when asked later by The Blade to be specific, she referred questions to Interim Superintendent John Foley."
I didn't hear any specific option for reducing the budget, but Mrs. Fisher did address the budget needed to be reviewed for cuts - I think this is a typo b/c there was discussion of balancing the budget but the only 'one option' that this could refer to was balancing the budget with the use of the healthcare savings fund.
Mrs. Fisher did not allude to anything - she stated quite clearly as did the TFT head on two occasions, that there is nearly enough in that account to cover next years' projected deficit. 19 million dollars in an account that the people in the know say only requires 9 million. So, why talk about a levy at this point with excess money in the bank and a budget that hasn't been reviewed for cuts?
What do any of you think about the possibility that a school levy would pass?
posted by katie82640 at 11:17 A.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Katie - flat out NO in February. How would the district explain paying out more than $250,000 to pay for a special election? Assuming $50,000 per teacher (probably more now that the lowest teachers on the seniority list have 7 years experience), that would be the equivalent to 5 teachers to pay for a special election.
The February timing has to do with the labor contracts expiring March 31, 2007 with of course the retroactive payments of $12 million or so being paid out with the passage of a new levy.
A levy might pass in November in a general election - but even then it would be very difficult to get passage.
posted by sflagg at 12:21 P.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
I have a real problem with the levy situation overall. First, the budget has not been reviewed for potential cost savings and/or cuts.
Secondly the 10m surplus and a minimum of budget cuts would handily cover a 12m deficit in a budget this size.
A tax levy can not continue to be the knee jerk reaction to the word 'deficit'. You cannot continually reach out to tax payers and say 'we need more'. Toledo is taxed to the eyeballs. We do not have more.
I heard the board President mention something that I want to hear more about - goals based budgeting. I want to hear more about making the budget work without just saying it's short and we need more.
There isn't any more.
posted by katie82640 at 01:57 P.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Larry Sykes needs to be taken out off the board as quick as possible.
posted by ToledoPlusPlus at 05:30 P.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
ToledoPlusPlus
HOW?
posted by purnhrt at 11:16 P.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Good question. It was more of a wishlist if anything. Can't Dr. Sanders lure him to Cleveland or something???
posted by ToledoPlusPlus at 11:42 P.M. EST on Tue Oct 31, 2006 #
Sykes' whole game is to follow the Sanders Plan{tm} for running the TPS: stop or discourage public participation, and push for the maximum income so that he and his army of cronies can get on with their disgusting business of playing with millions of dollars without any accountability.
It's obvious that Sykes is pushing for a levy without qualification since he has no concern or intent for cutting costs and conserving revenue. He just wants more money since that's simply the only thing he knows how to do: SPEND MONEY. He knows legions of Toledo voters tend to vote for school levies on the basis of "for the children". It's easy money, and he has a voracious appetite for it.
We put Fisher and Torres on the board in the nick of time. Sykes sounds like the 17-yr-old daughter of a friend of mine, who literally screams once she finds out her parents won't be handing her the money she was expecting. Fiscal accountability was never part of the unofficial plan. Next year, we need to put another fiscal conservative (or at least, fiscally-cautious) person on the BOE. If we can replace Sykes, "Spineless" Silver will undoubtedly flap like a flag in a good breeze and start supporting the New Majority; Barnett will then probably just sit there sullenly as is her wont. If we could get her to tilt her head back and open her mouth, she'd make a good planter.
P.S. I heard a qualified rumor that more than one of the administrators who followed Sanders to Cleveland have recently been asking the TPS for their old jobs back. Equally rumoredly, the answer has been "no". For once, the TPS is treating administrators as they should be treated: as infections which must be cut out.
posted by GuestZero at 03:39 A.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
GZ - good points that are pretty close to the target. Remember Barnett is up for re-election next year as is Sykes.
posted by sflagg at 06:38 A.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
Great points GZ -- and I laughed too at:
"Spineless" Silver will undoubtedly flap like a flag in a good breeze and start supporting the New Majority;"
If we could get her to tilt her head back and open her mouth, she'd make a good planter.
Funny -- but very true. Sykes better be gone after next year.
posted by ToledoPlusPlus at 08:51 A.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
Laughing here too. I'm holding my breath and hoping that Chris Myers will run. I've been bumping into him alot and if is on the board there would be (in my opinion) accountability, transparency and course correction.
And yes - if Sykes would even run for re-election, I can't see how anyone would elect him after this year. For anything....
posted by katie82640 at 11:06 A.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
purnht - Larry Sykes has said that he will be resigning from the board. The election is next year - so that narrows down the window of opportunity for him to do so. It will have to be soon.
posted by katie82640 at 11:19 A.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
THERE ARE TWO SPECIAL BOARD MEETINGS COMING UP. ONE IS TOMORROW MORNING 11/2/06 AND THE OTHER IS FRIDAY MORNING 11/3/06. BOTH ARE AT 7:30 AM. AT THE MANHATTAN BUILDING. THE MEETINGS ARE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION MEETINGS TO DISCUSS EMPLOYEES. INTERESTING!!!
posted by purnhrt at 02:33 P.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
sorry, the meetings are to discuss "employment of employees."
posted by purnhrt at 02:50 P.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
The special board meetings are to interview the treasurer candidates.
posted by sflagg at 03:06 P.M. EST on Wed Nov 01, 2006 #
Nice to get correct information not gossip!
posted by Teacher at 08:57 A.M. EST on Thu Nov 02, 2006 #
Teacher - that's why we started tpsinfo.com - sure there are some interpretations of the information, but all the data comes from public records. We always identify the sources and when possible include links or actual copies so that individuals can make up their own mind about the issue in question. There is nothing wrong with disagreements. But there is something wrong when compromises can not be found - but it takes two sides to compromise.
posted by sflagg at 11:08 A.M. EST on Thu Nov 02, 2006 #
When conflict gives way to honest debate - there is hope for solutions.
When conflict cannot progress to honest debate there will be no solutions.
posted by katie82640 at 02:49 P.M. EST on Thu Nov 02, 2006 #
Nice to get correct information not gossip!
Ouch!!! posted by Teacher at 08:57 A.M. EDT on Thu Nov 02, 2006 #
I hope you are not implying that the information I gave was gossip. I gave it like I got it from the treasurer's office.
posted by purnhrt at 03:38 P.M. EST on Thu Nov 02, 2006 #
I wasn't implying anything - sorry you thought it was intended for you. We heard at school it was about something completely different. I always appreciate Steve Flagg's info. And I have been on your site recently. Thank you.
posted by Teacher at 10:07 A.M. EST on Fri Nov 03, 2006 #
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