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First Solar nominated as the Worst Stock for 2008

First Solar is officially headquartered in Phoenix, but the company employs nearly 600 people, including some high tech jobs, at its U.S. manufacturing base and design center, located in Perrysburg Township.


Excerpts from a Jan 14, 2008 article by a Motley Fool contributing writer :

It's been hard to miss the Green Revolution, given the steady parade of supposedly eco-friendly companies tripping over themselves to go public these past few years. Standing out among that crowd, like anything but a ray of sunshine, is First Solar ( Nasdaq: FSLR ) -- my nominee for 2008's worst stock. It's out to save the environment, clean up the air, and generally make the world a better place -- so what's First Solar doing on a "worst of" list? Alas, First Solar is both a great business and a lousy stock.

My interest in environmentalism long predates the current craze. First Solar should be right up my alley. So why isn't it? For one thing, I've heard it all before. While I hope that the shift to greener energy does take hold in society, I've seen/heard the "this time is different" arguments before. I'll posit another hypothesis: The true shift to green tech will be a longer-term megatrend, driven by economic arguments rather than social appeals. It'll take decades to happen, and its path will be strewn with the financial ruins of thousands of unfortunate companies and investors.

No matter how much I appreciate companies like First Solar, and no matter how strongly I believe that we must shift to solar energy as quickly as possible -- and we're still talking decades here, folks -- we absolutely must divorce this business from its stock.

Cold financial logic tells us that First Solar, selling at near 50 times sales, and nearly 200 times EBITDA, is insanely priced. "But it's all about the growth and the opportunity!" the faithful will cry. Certainly, year-over-year revenue growth of 271% looks tantalizing -- perhaps too tantalizing. That growth comes off a very small base, and it will slow down going forward.

Quick calculations suggest that First Solar would need nearly a decade of more "modest" 50% annual growth at a 30% operating margin to justify today's stock price. In other words, making any sort of return on your investment would require even more optimistic growth assumptions. Moreover, First Solar faces key raw-material risks that could curtail growth, crimp margins, and crush share value.

Never confuse a business with its stock, especially when that business's mission appeals to your altruistic nature. I think First Solar is just one quarter of disappointing growth away from being the worst stock for 2008.


From the First Solar stock page at Motley Fool :

"Will this stock outperform or underperform the S&P 500?"

What the Community Thinks


Top Bull Pitch : "Every time Al Gore speaks about Global Warming, or other well known Democrats, this stock takes off- like it or not, the Demo's are on the way in.....gotta roll the dice & stick with this one."

Top Bear Pitch : "I generally stay away from valuation shorts, but I just can't resist, at more than 100× 2008 projected earnings."


At the close of trading on Jan 16, 2008, First Solar was priced at $181.56, down $23.23 (-11.34%) for the day.

Jan 16, 2008 First Solar-related news :

created by jr on Jan 17, 2008 at 09:04:26 am
updated by jr on Jan 17, 2008 at 10:20:43 am
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Comments ... #

It might be because it uses highly toxic materials, whose potentially catastrophic (for the company) downside is still under investigation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cadmium_telluride#Toxicity

And there are companies going the more benign long-term route.

Here's one of the competing technologies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_indium_gallium_selenide

I still think biofuels (plants are pretty good at converting sunlight into energy safely and efficiently) and wind turbines make more sense.

posted by charlatan on Jan 17, 2008 at 02:53:07 pm     #



Must of been good at one point cause my buddy sold his and got alittle over 150,000

posted by camaroman2125 on Jan 17, 2008 at 06:43:24 pm     #



The current 52-week range for First Solar stock is $27.54 to $283.00. A year ago today, First Solar closed at $29.02. The high of $283.00 was reached during the day of Dec 27. So yeah, it seems a person paying attention last year could have made some green off this green company. Today it closed at $167.40, down $14.16 from yesterday.


This Jan 17, 2008 news story indicates that other solar stocks rebounded today.

Investors sent solar-power stocks higher on Thursday, seeing the recent sell-off as a buying opportunity for major players. Many solar shares have suffered because of economic concerns affecting the overall market, the recent energy bill passage without added solar incentives, and lower oil prices. In theory, higher costs for fossil fuels make alternative energy a more viable option.

Despite the recent decline, several analysts have reiterated a view that sector dips are not an indication of long-term weakness for the solar-power market. "While we see demand hiccups ahead for the solar industry, we expect them to be short lived as the industry will stimulate elastic demand through lower prices," Thomas Weisel Partners analyst Jeff Osborne wrote in a note Thursday.

Cowen and Co. analyst Rob Stone said the recent sell-off was spurred by overall economic concerns and fears of solar-panel oversupply. He expects supply to "remain tight" at least into 2009, with improved costs leading to equality with traditional energy sources such as electricity. "Some challenging transitional quarters along the way are inevitable, which the top tier players, and those with vertical or virtual integration should be best prepared to handle," Stone said in a note Thursday.

MEMC shares rose 84 cents to $65.50 as Suntech shares gained $1.65, or 2.9 percent, to $58.10. JA Solar shares rose $2.53, or 4.2 percent, to $63.35. Other gains were posted by LDK Solar Co., which rose $2.64, or 7.7 percent, to $37.09; Canadian Solar Inc., which rose 86 cents, or 4.8 percent, to $18.76; and Trina Solar Ltd., which rose 90 cents, or 2.4 percent, to $38.19.

First Solar's stock price dwarfs those other solar-related companies. Maybe First Solar is the "Google" of solar companies on the stock market.

posted by jr on Jan 17, 2008 at 07:16:45 pm     #



Do the others have revenue and profits?
That might lead to the disparity.

They also might have institutional investors or stock whorders like Walton who artificially inflate prices with their large stakes and refusal to divest/sell.

posted by charlatan on Jan 17, 2008 at 09:59:41 pm     #



There's so much electronic money sloshing in the financial markets that you can choose any point of insane speculation going on. This stock price is all too likely to destroy the company, since as a manufacturing complex it should pay strict attention at under-raising the solar industry, but its executives can only be making other plans at the moment.

posted by GuestZero on Jan 17, 2008 at 11:01:18 pm     #