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Low IQ behind conservative beliefs

http://blog.chron.com/hottopics/2012/01/low-iq-behind-some-conservative-beliefs/

“As suspected, low intelligence in childhood corresponded with racism in adulthood. But the factor that explained the relationship between these two variables was political: When researchers included social conservatism in the analysis, those ideologies accounted for much of the link between brains and bias,” LifeScience wrote.

[AC puts his feet up on the desk, leans back in his chair, and grins.]

created by anonymouscoward on Jan 28, 2012 at 01:14:53 am     Politics     Comments: 39

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My IQ goes down every time you post AC.

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 28, 2012 at 01:40:03 am     #   12 people liked this

Apparently, AC doesn't read entire articles and stops when he finds something he agrees with. Also from the same article:

The Daily Beast, however, points out that the report only addressed socially conservative beliefs and not the whole spectrum of political and economic values of the right.

Hodson also noted that the results should not be used broadly across all people of either political affiliation, saying: “There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals.”

AC is guilty of doing exactly what the article cautions against. So much for higher intelligence...

posted by MaggieThurber on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:21:43 am     #   4 people liked this

Linecrosser posted at 12:40:03 AM on Jan 28, 2012:

My IQ goes down every time you post AC.

That's because you continue to deny the truth.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:21:44 am     #   2 people liked this

MaggieThurber posted at 09:21:43 AM on Jan 28, 2012:

Apparently, AC doesn't read entire articles and stops when he finds something he agrees with. Also from the same article:

The Daily Beast, however, points out that the report only addressed socially conservative beliefs and not the whole spectrum of political and economic values of the right.

Hodson also noted that the results should not be used broadly across all people of either political affiliation, saying: “There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals.”

AC is guilty of doing exactly what the article cautions against. So much for higher intelligence...

Well pardon me for being intolerant of stupidity and hypocrisy from the right-wing, particularly the "we're the party of freedom and liberty and less government" yet they're the ones pushing MORE legislation that restricts marriage, abortion, privacy, etc. and putting a Christian spin on it as well. Someone has to stand up and call bullshit on it lest they have their way with America and turn it into their dream theocracy. I'm sorry that I'm smart enough to catch on to the plot by the few smart people to exploit the dumb conservatives in order to obtain power. I'll just go away now and let Rupert Murdoch and the Kochs keep pushing lower taxes for the rich as THE way for all the poor conservative values voters to become richer.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:33:24 am     #   2 people liked this

Oh, and another thing while I'm at it. Why do you poor dumb conservatives think that Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, and so on love to say "liberal elite" and "liberal academics" and "ivory-tower liberals" and things like that? It's so they can widen the rift and continue exploiting you and your ignorance. The more they can get you to instantly dismiss anything a "liberal" says, the more hold THEY have on you and the more they can steer your thinking towards THEIR agenda.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:40:40 am     #   1 person liked this

Anonymous, grow up please.

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 28, 2012 at 11:51:32 am     #   2 people liked this

So many things I would like to say here, but it would disrupt my normal policy of playing nice on TT.

posted by mom2 on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:16:44 pm     #  

Moms are supposed to be nice, hehe

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:34:51 pm     #  

Linecrosser posted at 10:51:32 AM on Jan 28, 2012:

Anonymous, grow up please.

Don't wanna. Wanna be a Toys'R'Us kid!

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 28, 2012 at 03:15:34 pm     #  

Yeah, Mom2. Remember to set a good example for the children... even the ones on the short bus.

posted by madjack on Jan 28, 2012 at 06:49:16 pm     #  

madjack posted at 05:49:16 PM on Jan 28, 2012:

Yeah, Mom2. Remember to set a good example for the children... even the ones on the short bus.

Yeah, the ones we need to protect from the Republican fearmongering. (See what I did there?)

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:50:53 pm     #  

IQ goes down no matter what party or affiliation you blindly join and accept as the "experts" on everything. The mentality that your party is best and the others are the worst is exactly what is driving this country into the gutter.

I'd like to believe that while the founding fathers were from different beliefs, they put the country ahead of their own political careers. Now, the pendulum has swung the other direction. Career politicians are so far separated from the "average" voter, that they can only act in their own best interests.

posted by hockeyfan on Jan 29, 2012 at 12:49:54 am     #   2 people liked this

“They’ve pulled off the trifecta of controversial topics,” said Brian Nosek, a social and cognitive psychologist at the University of Virginia who was not involved in the study. “When one selects intelligence, political ideology and racism and looks at any of the relationships between those three variables, it’s bound to upset somebody.”

posted by toledolen_ on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:18:05 am     #  

Surprised they didn't tie it in with the other two variables in life; 1) toilet paper over or under; and 2) toilet seat left up or down.

posted by shamrock44 on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:41:27 am     #   1 person liked this

Linecrosser posted at 12:40:03 AM on Jan 28, 2012:

My IQ goes down every time you post AC.

Oh, by the way, personal attacks, Liney?

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:21:11 pm     #  

On a more serious note:

Liberalism, Atheism, and Sexual Exclusivity (monogamy) Linked to IQ

That's right, dumb conservatives are more likely to run around on their wives, all the more ironic that they talk so much about "sanctity of marriage".

(PDF) Conservatism and Cognitive Ability Negatively Correllated (the more conservative one is, the worse their cognitive ability is)

(PDF) Why Liberals and Atheists are More Intelligent

And a big THANK YOU to everyone who liked Liney's post about his IQ dropping every time I post. Everyone who refuses to consider the studies I present just continues to validate the conclusions of them. In other words, thanks for proving me right! :)

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:35:13 pm     #   1 person liked this

nothing personal about it, its a statement. Now if i would of said your so stupid that when you spew the tard crap out of your mouth everyone in the whole world becomes just that much more sadder for their loss of brain cells, that might have been a personal attack. :P

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:38:37 pm     #  

http://pss.sagepub.com/content/early/2012/01/04/0956797611421206 Link to abstract of study with option to purchase access to the full paper.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:41:47 pm     #  

Should I really go find link to studies that contradict your linked studies? I don't think I will bother because anyone with half a brain cell can figure out that any study can be skewed to reflect what they want it to say. Just as any link anyone posts from any conservative site you would disregard and call biased, so can be said of the links you post which are leftest biased and I wont even bother wasting time looking at them, the titles say it all.

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:42:00 pm     #  

Linecrosser posted at 12:38:37 PM on Jan 29, 2012:

nothing personal about it, its a statement. Now if i would of said your so stupid that when you spew the tard crap out of your mouth everyone in the whole world becomes just that much more sadder for their loss of brain cells, that might have been a personal attack. :P

capitalize the N in "nothing"
"it's" instead of "its."
capitalize the I
it is "would have" not "would of"
"you're" instead of "your"
"more sad" or "sadder", not "more sadder"

F-, see me after class.

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:45:19 pm     #  

Linecrosser posted at 12:42:00 PM on Jan 29, 2012:

Should I really go find link to studies that contradict your linked studies? I don't think I will bother because anyone with half a brain cell can figure out that any study can be skewed to reflect what they want it to say. Just as any link anyone posts from any conservative site you would disregard and call biased, so can be said of the links you post which are leftest biased and I wont even bother wasting time looking at them, the titles say it all.

You wouldn't know the first place to look for said studies, and anyone with two whole brain cells knows that the whole idea behind a properly done, valid study, is that someone constructed a hypothesis, collected data and performed experiments, analyzed the data, drew a conclusion, and REPORTED THE RESULTS OF THE STUDY. They wouldn't pass muster and be published in a respected journal if they were bullshit. But hey, don't let the way the scientific process works get in your way of validating every study here by claiming they're all wrong and biased because they merely disagree with your conservative worldview. :)

posted by anonymouscoward on Jan 29, 2012 at 01:53:45 pm     #   1 person liked this

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 29, 2012 at 02:37:23 pm     #  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tkmS6JrWSPU

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 29, 2012 at 02:37:33 pm     #  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NIcDdWgBELY

posted by Linecrosser on Jan 29, 2012 at 02:38:21 pm     #  

Why is it the liberals are the first ones to bitch about IQ tests in schools? You would think they would want to expose the stupid Republican kids.

posted by Wulf on Jan 30, 2012 at 01:33:40 am     #  

"Children with low intelligence are more likely to grow up to be social conservatives and racists, researchers found in a study published out of the U.K."

Does that mean that liberals and progressives CHOOSE to be hatemongers and bigots then - what is their excuse?

posted by toledoramblingman on Jan 30, 2012 at 04:28:15 pm     #   1 person liked this

Anonymous Coward: Are you a real person? Seriously? If you are a real person and not some computer generator of foolish political statements, do you seriously believe the stuff you write?

posted by MemyselfandI on Jan 30, 2012 at 04:58:26 pm     #   1 person liked this

For the hell of it I went to LifeSciences Website and looked around a little. AC deemed it a RESPECTED JOURNAL. I went to the "News About the Environment" section and only had to go down 4 stories to read an article about how mankind is causing global warming.

I'm not giving my respect to that liberal tree-hugging bullshit. Yet I can understand how one with an ultra liberal perspective might think it is worthy of respect.

posted by jimavolt on Feb 02, 2012 at 08:20:19 pm     #   1 person liked this

There's three other nice links here too, Mr jimavolt. You might want to check those, too...

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 02, 2012 at 08:52:38 pm     #  

They were nice. That Linecrosser fellow has a unique ability to cut through all the bullshit and get to the truth.

I see you also had a couple of links. Just because some other asshole agrees with you does not make your position right or even defensible.

You're suffering from the arrogance & intolerance of a person who believes their views are superior than those of others simply because of the source. I've learned that those who think themselves superior for any reason are typically assholes, and that goes for liberals and conservatives alike.

Cheers.

posted by jimavolt on Feb 02, 2012 at 09:36:32 pm     #   1 person liked this

Could also be I'm a "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" independent out trolling the social conservative/fiscally liberal (though they deny the latter) Republicans/Teabaggers. Though the fact is that all too many of the social conservative types I've encountered validate these studies (see also all the Republicans who are anti-gay-anything yet get exposed as self-hating closet cases, or all the rest who tout "Christian values" yet get caught in affairs, stealing, etc.). I'm anti-hypocrisy but I also like to use my own "apparent" hypocrisy to see if anyone's smart enough to catch it AND think about it for a bit.

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 02, 2012 at 10:24:11 pm     #   2 people liked this

"Christian values"
http://swampbubbles.com/20081230/wspd-s-maggie-thurber-fined-9300-illegally-funneling-bush-campaign

posted by wolfman on Feb 03, 2012 at 02:38:27 am     #  

I'm a conservative libertarian who couldn't care less what consenting adults co with their private parts. AC - does that make me a closet liberal?

posted by jimavolt on Feb 04, 2012 at 04:45:40 pm     #   1 person liked this

...does that make me a closet liberal?

Well, I don't think so, but I'm not really a label expert. For that I'd have to defer to Wolfman; he's a true expert at labeling people.

What do you say, Wolf? Is he or isn't he?

I'm anti-hypocrisy...

The Lord sees you lying, AC. Now, I'm willing to just overlook your lies and ignore you, but I don't think the Lord is. Don't say I didn't warn you and try to help you.

Why is it the liberals are the first ones to bitch about IQ tests in schools? You would think they would want to expose the stupid Republican kids.

I don't know, but I don't think it's out of the kindness of their hearts.

I'm not sure how you meant this one, but I'm giving you one gold star for cleverness and another gold star for humor. Wear 'em in good health!

posted by madjack on Feb 04, 2012 at 06:43:00 pm     #  

Madjack funny you should ask about labeling. I happened to watched this show today and boy it really made me think about this. All of you should take the time and watch this.
http://billmoyers.com/segment/jonathan-haidt-explains-our-contentious-culture/

posted by wolfman on Feb 05, 2012 at 02:47:31 am     #  

Working people frequently ask retired people what they do to make their days interesting. Well, for example, the other day my wife and I went into town and visited a shop.

When we came out, there was a cop writing out a parking ticket. We went up to him and I said, 'Come on, man, how about giving a senior citizen a break?'

He ignored us and continued writing the ticket.

I called him an asshole. He glared at me and started writing another ticket for having worn-out tires.

So the wife called him a shit head. He finished the second ticket and put it on the windshield with the first.

Then he started writing more tickets. This went on for about 20 minutes. The more we abused him, the more tickets he wrote.

Just then our bus arrived, and we got on it and went home, we always look for cars with "Romney 2012" stickers. We try to have a little fun each day now that we're retired.

posted by wolfman on Feb 06, 2012 at 11:39:06 am     #   4 people liked this

Just then our bus arrived...

I note that an Obama supporter can't afford a car.

Okay - this one was pretty good.

posted by madjack on Feb 06, 2012 at 02:06:10 pm     #  

madjack posted at 01:06:10 PM on Feb 06, 2012:

Just then our bus arrived...

I note that an Obama supporter can't afford a car.

Okay - this one was pretty good.

Then again, perhaps they can and choose to not be senior citizens driving around at half the speed limit crashing into farmers' markets. Or perhaps they're concerned about the environment and take mass transit.

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 06, 2012 at 02:43:03 pm     #  

We ride TARTA cheaper than a KIA!

posted by wolfman on Feb 06, 2012 at 07:29:50 pm     #