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McCain was born outside US

Rules are rules, sorry Napoleon.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/019165.html

February 05, 2008
McUnconstitutional
Posted by Lew Rockwell at February 5, 2008 12:11 PM

The Constitution has little relevance to the government, but still it's interesting to note that the crazed John McCain was born, to his state-connected parents, in the Panama Canal Zone. The Zone, the product of US imperialism under the crazed Teddy Roosevelt, was never officially US territory. That is, McCain was born in a foreign country, and therefore not eligible to be president, according to the Constitution.

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posted by charlatan on Feb 05, 2008 at 10:57:33 pm     #

Were his parents U.S. citizens? I believe that in most cases this has been taken to mean that the child is a U.S. citizen even if born outside the country. Perhaps I am wrong. So all those children that have been born at U.S. military bases outside of U.S. territory should be deported back to their country of origin.

posted by oldsendbrdy on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:34:53 pm     #

And Romeny was born in Mexico.

According to wiki:
Clause 5: Qualifications for office

No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

By the time of their inauguration, the President and Vice President must be:

* natural born citizens (or citizens at the time of the Constitution's adoption)
* at least thirty-five years old
* inhabitants for at least fourteen years of the United States.

The Twenty-second Amendment also prevents a President from being elected more than twice.

The natural born citizen clause is a subject of debate. No law or court ruling has ever established the precise definition of a natural born citizen. It is generally agreed that a natural born citizen of the United States is any person born in one of the 50 states or the District of Columbia. But it is not firmly agreed[citation needed] if this definition should also include persons born in United States overseas territories or persons born to United States citizens living abroad. To date, no such person has been nominated for President or Vice President by a major political party, although some serious candidates for nomination (most recently George W. Romney, who was born in Mexico, and John McCain, who was born in the Panama Canal Zone) have fallen into the area of uncertainty. There is currently a movement to abolish the natural born citizen clause and allow immigrants to be President, thereby also eliminating the controversies regarding the definition of natural born. It has received exceptional support from California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger who was born in Austria.

posted by charlatan on Feb 05, 2008 at 11:57:20 pm     #

He is elligible.

A quick search found the following info on McCain:

MiLatino.com: McCain was born in Panama at the Coco Solo Air Base in the then American-controlled Panama Canal Zone to Admiral John S. McCain, Jr. and Roberta (Wright) McCain. Although McCain was not born within a state of the United States, his US citizenship (and future eligibility to be elected to the presidency) was assured at birth both by jus sanguinis, since both of his parents were U.S. citizens, and jus soli, as the Canal Zone was at that time a United States possession. Both his father and grandfather were U.S. Navy admirals.

From the Washington Post: the First Congress, on March 26, 1790, approved an act that declared, "The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States." That would seem to include McCain, whose parents were both citizens and whose father was a Navy officer stationed at the U.S. naval base in Panama at the time of John's birth in 1936.

"He meets the requirement of U.S. citizenship in order to be eligible for president," said McCain spokesperson Nancy Ives.

posted by MaumeeMom on Feb 06, 2008 at 12:11:37 am     #

And MaumeeMom just dashed the hopes of Romney fans everywhere.

posted by JustaSooner on Feb 06, 2008 at 02:15:09 pm     #

It was George Romney, father of Mitt Romney, who was born in Mexico. Mitt was born in Detroit.

posted by flinty on Feb 06, 2008 at 08:45:04 pm     #