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Arnie's at Levis Commons - Perrysburg

I decided to remove the post as it was never my intention to disparage Arnie’s at Levis. I was only trying to gather and share information on my dining experience, as well as point out a potential “red flag” for them to address on their own. I hope Arnie’s thrives in Perrysburg and helps the area attract more positive growth.

created by Watcher on Jun 26, 2012 at 08:27:47 am
updated by Watcher on Jun 27, 2012 at 07:49:52 am
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Their food in west toledo is awful

posted by nits on Jun 26, 2012 at 08:33:29 am     #   2 people liked this

Went there last Tuesday and had a good experience with beverage & food. Sorry to hear about your issues. Bruce Gradkowski was mingling about doing his PR work.
Gradkowski's at UT is set to open this fall featuring theater style seating and a true sports bar experience

posted by Hoops on Jun 26, 2012 at 09:01:53 am     #  

Watcher has had two posts. One wondering why work has stopped on a restaurant he doesn't know the name to (which was Arnies) then this one about food poisoning at Arnies.

Hmmm.

posted by Molsonator on Jun 26, 2012 at 09:51:28 am     #   2 people liked this

Their food was the worse in town back in the day.

posted by SensorG on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:48:45 am     #   1 person liked this

Arnie's On Levis-part owner Bruce Gradkowski admits there is work to be done in the kitchen but, of course, not refering to known illness.

He seemed to hope that the problems are related to growing pains.

I haven't eaten there yet so my testimony is worthless to this thread other than the menu items and drink prices look fair.

posted by Offshore on Jun 26, 2012 at 11:44:12 am     #  

Watcher, what you experienced is what I get when I eat Chinese food with MSG (monosodium glutamate). It's an ingredient also found in soup mixes and sauces for the restaurant trade. The headache would never respond to painkillers --just had to be endured for a few hours. Anyway, I feel your pain!

posted by viola on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:10:34 pm     #  

Not to take away from your illness, Watcher, but there is simply no way you can authoritatively blame the meal you ate at Arnie's for the symptoms you experienced without a lab.

Many people think back to the last meal they ate when they get sick, but even if this was a foodborne illness, it could have been something you ate in the previous few days and not your Arnie's meal. The following CDC link provides information on the most common foodborne illnesses and their symptoms and incubation periods. Very few foodborne illnesses have such a short incubation period as you described (two hours) and most foodborne illnesses are in the 6-hour to 3-day range. Also, most foodborne illnesses have a gastrointestinal component (diarrhea, vomiting, and so on) that you did not list in your symptoms.

posted by historymike on Jun 26, 2012 at 10:30:08 pm     #  

Owning a restaurant entails a sizeable personal and financial investment. The fact that someone can anonymously damage a new establishment's reputation is disturbing. I would like to see the post removed.

Sir, if your story is true, please contact the wood county health department and the restaurant management. I mean no personal offense to you.

posted by nick44 on Jun 26, 2012 at 11:45:07 pm     #  

I think he "stopped by" TT to take a fictitious dig at Arnies. I don't believe his story.

posted by Molsonator on Jun 27, 2012 at 08:01:05 am     #  

Is this Arnie's actually in Levis Commons? I didn't see it the last time I was there.

posted by slowsol on Jun 27, 2012 at 10:25:41 am     #  

no, its across the street from Levis. I haven't been there yet, but the patio looks cool.

posted by AquaMan22 on Jun 27, 2012 at 11:12:58 am     #  

I just remember Arnie's from back in the day when it was over at Westgate area. That was before all the sports bars popped up the only place I could watch the Dolphins place was there. They food was sooooo bad. We’d drink beer, but order only a minimum amount of food. They used to keep their cook oil WAY too long. They fries would come out dark brown and limp. With all the great bar options around town, I can’t see even giving them look.

posted by SensorG on Jun 27, 2012 at 11:36:29 am     #  

That's what you get for watching the Dolphins, Sensor.

;)

posted by mom2 on Jun 27, 2012 at 11:45:58 am     #  

mom2 - I'm actually a 49re’s fan, but my 3 best friends were/are Dolphin fans so what you going to do?

posted by SensorG on Jun 27, 2012 at 12:52:01 pm     #  

We’d drink beer, but order only a minimum amount of food. They used to keep their cook oil WAY too long. They fries would come out dark brown and limp.

Considering the amount of smoke in the air back in the day, you could have been eating old cigarettes. Tasted about the same...

posted by oldhometown on Jun 27, 2012 at 01:38:19 pm     #  

I've had food poisoning twice. Once we were able to track it back to the source as all members of the dining party (7) got sick in the same manner at the same time and the only common experience was a lucheon at a Sylvania deli (out of business long ago). The health department did investigate and there were findings.

For the second occaision it began with sudden projectile vomiting that dropped me to my knees about 5 hours after a dining out experience. Source unproven. I was the only person in the family and circle of friends that got sick with whatever it was. I had my suspicions - chicken severely undercooked at a local regional chain restaurant. I sent the chicken back to the kitchen and it was redone. I did contact the health department. They did investigate but came to no conclusions. It was long time before I could eat chicken in a restaurant again.

Its rare to get the source of an isolated case of suspected food poisiong pinned down. Its always a good idea to contact the health department to report a case of "suspected" food poisoning. Only they can connect the dots to other cases that you dont know about and determine if there is a common link. Just be as factual as you can and remember that it is a "suspected" case that may never be proven.

posted by holland on Jun 27, 2012 at 03:11:08 pm     #  

Update on Arnie's on Levis: finally ate there and the food was ok bar food, nothing great, but not bad. Service was fine. It appears that the wait staff had been chosen according to looks vs. experience. That's not to say that even a Kardashion or Snooki can't learn.

posted by Offshore on Jun 28, 2012 at 07:55:21 am     #  

Isn't it pretty typical to choose sports bar waitstaff based on appearance?

Many moons ago (many, many moons ago...LOL), I applied for my first waitressing job at a sports bar in my college town. Had never waited tables a day in my life.

Walked in, asked for an application from the

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 08:08:16 am     #  

(Damn comment got lost...)

Asked for an application from the owner. He looked me up & down and asked if I had an restaurant experience. I said no. He shrugged and said "oh well, you're hired anyhow."

In retrospect, that should have been a red flag, but hey...I was only 19. LOL

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 08:11:26 am     #  

mom2-send pics!LOL!

posted by Offshore on Jun 28, 2012 at 10:01:58 am     #   1 person liked this

I think I was just a novelty for the owner because I'm a redhead.

There were plenty of blonde bombshells and brunette babes who worked there. When I walked in (a redhead in decent shape and not a complete troll), the owner probably figured I'd fill some sort of niche market. LOL

His business plan seems to have worked though...still in business 20 years later. They even host the live radio shows for Tom Izzo and Mark Dantonio.

(Why the hell didn't we have anything cool like that when I worked there? Sigh...all we had was the middle aged softball players sponsored by the bar who tipped really well, but tried to get handsy.)

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 10:22:19 am     #  

Offshore posted at 10:01:58 AM on Jun 28, 2012:

mom2-send pics!LOL!

Sadly, that was the era before digital cameras, and now they'd probably pay my middle-aged-with-2-kids-ass to not clutter up the scenery. LOL

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 10:57:44 am     #  

...middle aged softball players sponsored by the bar who tipped really well, but tried to get handsy.

Hey-hey-hey, the hand is quicker than the eye!

I've had real food poisoning twice, and twice was too often. The first occurrence was in grade school. Hillview Elementary in Sylvania did all their own food preparation, and the students were forced to eat whatever slop came out of the window. One day it was kraut and wieners, which is going to be a dead loser for kids anyway. I think the hot dogs were bad, but that night I got sick around midnight, my fever shot up to 104 and I was out of commission for two weeks. The second time was a slop house on the East side. Again, up around midnight with symptoms no one wants to read about. Three days later my fever got so high I became delirious and experienced vivid hallucinations. My live in SO (Migraine One) came home and I told her all about the guys from work who had stopped over to see me. They were down in the side yard talking to me while I was on the second floor, sitting in the open window. I couldn't find the stairs, you see. I was so sick I wanted to die, and my SO was as much help as a dry birdbath in the middle of Death Valley.

Neither time could be proven, so what could I do?

I think there was a place, maybe a steak house, on Talmadge that actually did produce a few cases of food poisoning and one woman died of it. This was a few years back - anyone remember that one?

I don't think Watcher suffered actual food poisoning. Believe me, if you ever get food poisoning you'll know it. Watcher likely had a bad reaction to something he ate, which most everyone has had at some time or another.

posted by madjack on Jun 28, 2012 at 11:31:26 am     #  

I think there was a place, maybe a steak house, on Talmadge that actually did produce a few cases of food poisoning and one woman died of it. This was a few years back - anyone remember that one?

I haven't lived in Toledo long enough to know, but I did try looking in the Google news archives.

Didn't find that particular story, but there were a lot of interesting articles relating to food poisoning in Toledo. Executives on a retreat at Maumee Bay, UT students, botulism from home canned beets...so many quirky stories.

(The most quirky story was one relating to a local restaurateur and Muscles Midwest, a male escort service. Not sure how that came up in my restaurant food poisoning search, but it was fascinating nonetheless.)

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 11:55:13 am     #  

The most quirky story was one relating to a local restaurateur and Muscles Midwest, a male escort service.

Okay, Mom2... I don't want to know.

posted by madjack on Jun 28, 2012 at 07:51:45 pm     #  

It was a Toledo Ohio caterer that caused 15 cases of ecoli with one fatality in September 2005. Still searchng for the name of the caterer. The name wasnt made public until late spring 2006.

posted by holland on Jun 28, 2012 at 08:19:11 pm     #  

aaaaaaaaaaah hahahaha

posted by upso on Jun 28, 2012 at 08:22:03 pm     #  

whoops! sorry. laughing at madjack. not the fatality in 2005

posted by upso on Jun 28, 2012 at 08:22:33 pm     #  

Fair enough, madjack.

Because I know how delicate you are and respect your wishes, I'll refrain from mentioning that Chris Berman of Chris Berman's Supper Club was allegedly linked to a multistate male escort service busted in 1990. I will also not mention that the restaurant closed shortly after he unfortunately committed suicide after being the male escort service allegations surfaced.

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 10:46:03 pm     #  

(Should have deleted the word "being" above.)

posted by mom2 on Jun 28, 2012 at 10:47:25 pm     #  

I only remember one big caterer food poisoning issue and it was Skaff Catering. I don't recall if it was e-coli or not.

posted by jimavolt on Jun 30, 2012 at 07:52:34 am     #