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'Mom' and 'Dad' banished by California

Brave New Schools

(below is a portion of the article - see the link above for the full text)

"Mom and Dad" as well as "husband and wife" effectively have been banned from California schools under a bill signed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger...

Analysts have warned that schools across the nation will be impacted by the decision, since textbook publishers must cater to their largest purchaser, which often is California, and they will be unlikely to go to the expense of having a separate edition for other states.

The bills signed by Schwarzenegger include SB777, which bans anything in public schools that could be interpreted as negative toward homosexuality, bisexuality and other alternative lifestyle choices.

There are no similar protections for students with traditional or conservative lifestyles and beliefs, however.

"SB 777 will result in reverse discrimination against students with religious and traditional family values," said Meredith Turney, legislative liaison for Capitol Resource Institute. "These students have lost their voice as the direct result of Gov. Schwarzenegger's unbelievable decision. The terms 'mom and dad' or 'husband and wife' could promote discrimination against homosexuals if a same-sex couple is not also featured.

"Parents want the assurance that when their children go to school they will learn the fundamentals of reading, writing and arithmetic not social indoctrination regarding alternative sexual lifestyles. Now that SB777 is law, schools will in fact become indoctrination centers for sexual experimentation," she said.

England told WND that the law is not a list of banned words, including "mom" and "dad." But she said the requirement is that the law bans discriminatory bias.

"Having 'mom' and 'dad' promotes a discriminatory bias. You have to either get rid of 'mom' and 'dad' or include everything when talking about [parental issues]," she said. "They [promoters of sexual alternative lifestyles] do consider that discriminatory."

"Because no textbook or instruction in California public schools currently disparages transsexuality, bisexuality, or homosexuality, the practical effect of SB777 will be to require positive portrayals of these sexual lifestyles at every government-operated school," CCF noted.

Offenders will face the wrath of the state Department of Education, up to and including lawsuits.

CCF noted that now on a banned list will be any text, reference or teaching aid that portrays marriage as only between a man and woman, materials that say people are born male or female (and not in between), sources that fail to include a variety of transsexual, bisexual and homosexual historical figures, and sex education materials that fail to offer the option of sex changes.

created by babbleman on Feb 21, 2008 at 08:31:44 am     Comments: 14

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If your child has to learn about the words "Mom" and "Dad" from a textbook, you are a failure as a parent.

posted by thenick on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:15:43 am     #



Excellent point TheNick

posted by OhioKat on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:26:09 am     #



Thenick and OhioKat are correct about kids learning mom and dad. However, if they are corrected or their answers about "mom" and "dad" added to while in school, that's wrong.

While I did read the WND article, I'd need to read a supposedly more mainstream media report on the bill. At least one without outward leanings.
Mike

posted by miked918 on Feb 21, 2008 at 09:34:18 am     #



Isn't Plato's Republic about the state acting as surrogate parents?

Aren't schools about being parents during waking/working hours?

The bigger question might be the need for institutional learning/training for any length of time.

posted by charlatan on Feb 21, 2008 at 10:21:32 am     #



Ah-Nuld needs a BIG red "D" behind his name. Phony bastard. He's anti-gun, too, even though he used one in nearly every movie he ever made.

posted by Darkseid on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:09:23 pm     #



^^What Nick said.

Also, I think "parents" is a perfectly fine substitution for "mom and dad". Let the kids take from it what they must.

posted by jhostetler on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:09:34 pm     #



Apparently the author is worried that the kids learn no values from "mom" and "dad". If parents have trouble with homosexuality, and can't impart that to their children then apparently "family values" is a meaningless term. So the parents should be able to explain to the kids if they come to the parents confused about what they read, and how they live in their homes.

posted by oldsendbrdy on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:19:50 pm     #



Instead of reading whacked-out sources like WorldNetDaily (better known as "WorldNutDaily"), how about reading the text of the actual bill:

California SB 777

This bill would revise the list of prohibited bases of discrimination and the kinds of prohibited instruction, activities, and instructional materials and instead, would refer to disability, gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, sexual orientation, or any other characteristic contained in the definition of hate crimes that is contained in the Penal Code. The bill would define disability, gender, nationality, race or ethnicity, religion, and sexual orientation for this purpose.

And the "experts" cited in the article are the usual parade of far-right agenda groups. They make all sorts of scary predictions, like the abolition of the words "Mom" and "Dad," or boys being allowed to use the girl's locker rooms, but there is nothing of the sort in this bill.

If you are going to read WND, at least take the time to read more before making up your mind. Here is an article that is a bit less insane in its discussion of the 2007 law.

posted by historymike on Feb 21, 2008 at 12:47:51 pm     #



Ah yes, California-the land of nuts and fruits-why am I not surprised?

posted by CharlieA-Z on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:01:37 pm     #



Thanks historymike.

Of course you can't ban words like "mom" and "dad" -- that's just hysteria talking. A child of a gay couple certainly uses either "moms" or "dads" to reference his or her own parents, for one thing.

About the scariest thing, for conservatives, that will happen is that instructional materials will likely have to be more inclusive, although the bill doesn't even seem to require that. It just eliminates discriminatory materials from classroom instruction.

posted by jmleong on Feb 21, 2008 at 02:08:24 pm     #



You're right-just ask Heather.

posted by CharlieA-Z on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:30:38 am     #



LOL CharlieA-Z; though I'm not sure everybody will get the reference

posted by taxiang on Feb 22, 2008 at 10:17:34 pm     #



Hey taxiang, people need to childrens' books once in a while!

posted by CharlieA-Z on Feb 23, 2008 at 12:05:02 am     #



I mean people need to READ childrens' books once in a while!

posted by CharlieA-Z on Feb 23, 2008 at 06:42:05 am     #