http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Worldwide+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
I'm sorry, but this just cracks me up. I'm sure I'll now be labeled as a hater of all things beautiful in the environment. To those that do I say, "lighten up".
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What about from 1998 to about 2001? That looks like even a bigger drop. I wonder why the graph only goes back to 1988? Just questions....
I'll call bullshit...
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2/27/71536/7689/2/464761
Sunstroke
by DarkSyde
Wed Feb 27, 2008 at 04:18:26 AM PSTA cool January has elicited gleeful celebration among conservatives still caught in the grip of climate change denial. A good illustration can be found in the blog section of a site called Daily Tech:
Twelve-month long drop in world temperatures wipes out a century of warming
... All four major global temperature tracking outlets (Hadley, NASA's GISS, UAH, RSS) have released updated data. All show that over the past year, global temperatures have dropped precipitously.But the NASA GISS site referenced above says nothing of the sort about 2007:
The year 2007 tied for second warmest in the period of instrumental data, behind the record warmth of 2005, in the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) analysis.
A near record warm year and a dramatically colder one, what the heck? Well, January '08 was cooler than average, that much is true. But somewhere along the way in the D-tech diary, 'one month' was replaced with 'twelve month long drop' and 'past year.' That screw up was then compounded by the diarist erroneously proclaiming it ‘erases a century of global warming.’
A popular refrain in the mostly glowing comment section that follows is 'it’s the sun!' I doubt many of those pointing to the sun bothered to ask an astronomer; but I asked a Bad Astronomer who said:
Over the whole sunspot cycle, at most, this would raise the temperature of the Earth on average by 0.2 degrees Celsius, and we are measuring increases much larger than that (not to mention the trend just keeps going up, and doesn't rise and fall with the sunspot cycle). People who try to tie global warming to the Sun have very little evidence, and what they do have does not come close to explaining the rise in temperature we see on Earth.
There are dozens of observatories on earth and in space scrutinizing solar output at every wavelength. There are thousands of scientists all over the world who spend their entire professional lives examining that data. When someone comes along and asks "How come you smart scientists never thought of the sun?" as if they’ve hit on a novel explanation for climate change, the response from the scientific community is little more than laughter.
This may be old hat for regulars, but we have a lot of new eyeballs around, so it's useful to review the point I brought up yesterday: This stuff gets pinged around the Internet gaining a life of its own until it gets mainstreamed. That D-tech post has already been linked by loads of wingnut sites including Drudge. From there it quickly found its way into my email box along with indignant demands from conservatives that I post The Truth. Which incidentally, I just did, even though it's probably not The Truth they wanted to hear.
Odds are it's only a matter of time before we hear a talking head solemnly asking how 'climate change alarmists explain the record drop in global temperatures over the past year.' Apply that same procedure to any right-wing zombie lie you choose, and you get a feel for why they're so hard to kill.
Oscar and Nobel??
For peace not SCIENCE! Wonder why it was not for science, physics, biology etc........???
The A-Hole
posted by TheAssHoleLawyer on Feb 27, 2008 at 04:04:05 pm #
From what I have seen, the Earth has a cycle of going from an oval orbit to a more rounder orbit, during the more oval orbit we are slightly further from the sun and get cooler and when we go into the more rounder orbit we are nearer the sun longer and get warmer. Dont recall the time it takes for this to happen but we are again in that more rounder orbit and we are getting warmer. While I will admit man has done a lot to increase pollution in the atmosphere, we as a whole have severely decreased that compared to the 1900's when factories spewed raw smoke from everything from factories to trains. Look at combined emissions from coal from factories in Europe and American during out industrial revolutions. We dont pump that amount anymore. If they talk about carbon recovery they also need to look at the depletion of the rain forests as well, a lot of the worlds carbon was trapped by them and they are disappearing, yet we hear no one scream and cry foul at those countries. I am sorry but its pretty arrogant to think that only one country is to blame or that man as a whole can have that much effect on the whole planet.
posted by Linecrosser on Feb 27, 2008 at 04:54:13 pm #
Oh and if man is what is causing the Earth to warm up why when there is no life on the other planets are they warming up too.
posted by Linecrosser on Feb 27, 2008 at 04:55:21 pm #
I remember back in the late 80's when the hole in the ozone layer was expanding at the South Pole. We actually did something about it by reducing CFCs, and the ozone hole started to shrink. Back then there wasn't a big backlash against the "CFC loonies". But then again, we didn't kill people for freezer units and aerosol sprays either.
"Oh and if man is what is causing the Earth to warm up why when there is no life on the other planets are they warming up too."
posted by Linecrosser on Feb 27, 2008 at 04:55:21 pm #
Excellent point--->as photographic evidence clearly shows the polar ice caps on MARS are shrinking as well. Maybe the global warming crowd will blame this on Martian republicans trying to ruin Mars!
posted by CharlieA-Z on Feb 27, 2008 at 05:50:30 pm #
All those weirdos with their "renewable energy too cheap to meter" better get out of America... oh they're called the Amish, well um, tell them to stop making American made handcrafted long lasting furniture somewhere else like smart christian businessmen.
:P
...the polar ice caps on MARS are shrinking as well.
Mars has the tallest mountain in the solar system, Olympus Mons. Its elevation above its base is 78,000 feet. That's over 5 times the height of Everest above its base.
Despite its elevation, the 300 plus mile diameter of Olympus Mons makes most of it not much more of a climbing challenge than a long sloping stroll to the top. There are, however, some cliffs that surround it that are the result of volcanic calving that are 20,000 feet high. To put that in perspective, consider El Capitan is only 3,000 feet. Imagine 7 of those stacked on each other. This picture represents Olympus Mons in the background with Earth's Evererst in the foreground next to Venus's Maxwell Montes.
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For all four sources, it's the single fastest temperature change ever recorded, either up or down.
FatBabe, the claim now is that global warming doesn't have to mean getting warmer. I think that's why it is now has the broader implication "climate change".
From what I understand, any drastic change in the weather is evidence of man's doing. Rain, snow, drought, warm, cold, hurricane, tidal wave - you name it.
posted by babbleman on Feb 27, 2008 at 03:30:30 pm #