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First Energy wants 44% rate increase ??

Westgate Neighbors Alert:

Meeting at: Hanmi Covenant Presbyterian Church

by Harry Ward

Councilman George Sarantou discusses how to say No to Edison's 44% rate increase.

You probably know that NW Ohio already has some of the highest electric rates in the state. however, did you know that Toledo Edison has petitioned the PUCO for a 44% increase in revenue? Or that the PUCO staff has recommended and increase of "only" 22% to 24%? What can we, the public, do to prevent these increases?

George Sarantou has been City Council's point person on electric rates for several years. He is very upset about these proposed increases; which if implemented will make NW Ohio even less competitive for new jobs. Therefore, George will be our March 9th General Meeting guest, to discuss the background, the current situation, and what we, the citizens, can do to prevent this increase from being approved.

So come to our March 9th meeting, 7:00 PM, and participate in this very important discussion. Bring a friend or neighbor. Like last month, we will again meet upstairs in the church. Look for directional signs as you enter the door.

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Thank God for PUCO, they only want to increase rates by 25% instead of 44%,, jeez.
I think we can trust them ,, right? NW Ohio is done for. Last one out turn out those damn expensive lights!

first energy is probably trying to make up for the cost of their criminal negligence on the reactor head, and also anticipating the cost of the new carbon tax, and the doubling of the price of coal in recent years. Seems as though even blowing the tops off of mountains isn't helping cut costs enough to keep the price of coal at bay. It is now officially cheaper to make power by wind and solar than by coal and nukes. Where in the hell are our elected officials. With such increases in power rates, industry will RUN out of NW Ohio. The good news, the coke plant will make its own stinking electricity from coal , to that it can continue its task of ruining the best location for tourism and sports fishing tourism in the midwest.

There is one hope, that Toledo, and Ohio in general, work on their own, without the state or federal government, because they are coal corrupted, to do everything needed to make NW Ohio the home to massive installations of solar and wind power, including concentrating solar stirling generators. NASA Glenn in Cleveland knows how to make that happen.

If you want your solar power to come from Arizona, and your wind from North Dakota, keep in mind that line losses of electricity are about 7% per hundred miles. That fact alone makes Ohio the place to make our own electricity from solar and wind. The cities and counties should begin their own programs to incrementally install selected wind and solar to install and evaluate, and be prepared for solar and wind solutions that are orders of magnitude greater in output, especailly solar. Solar is moving very fast. With 3 solar firms in the area, we are criminally negligent for not making large solar installations. First Solar is of course the worlds powerhouse of Solar, as is Q-Cells which just bought Perrysburgs Solar Fields Co, now known as Calyxo. The third company, Xunlight, is making thin film solar panels that are cutting edge and much cheaper. Wait long wait wrong Toledo, because the doubling of the cost of coal in recent years, and First Energy and PUCOs decision that YOU will pay for the Davis Besse debacle, mean monstrous energy prices, and a crap economy.

created by prime3end on Mar 01, 2008 at 12:29:51 pm     Comments: 7

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Toledo should look into community owned power. Cities like Cleveland and Austin, I believe, have municipal power that gives it's citizens lower rates and the ability to pursue renewable energy.

With energy a major factor of production/cost of doing business, getting jacked by First Energy (the name itself kind of hints that it is obsolete)... I don't think this area can afford it.

Toledo can take back it's power source by eminent domain, but in reality could also take it via modern RICO laws... which is the avenue I think is worth pursuing.

Germany also has less sunlight than Seattle I heard and has solar power all over.

posted by charlatan on Mar 01, 2008 at 03:22:02 pm     #



Yes, Germans pay 9 cents per kw hour, we in toledo are paying almost 12 cents. The German govt gives you $3 per for every watt of photovoltaic panels you hang up. Its certainly not an issue of cost, its an issue of monopoly domination of the market by Ohio Utility companies and the corruption that lets them stay in that position. I hope you are right that something can be done, otherwise Toledo will look back on today as that good ol days.

posted by prime3end on Mar 01, 2008 at 04:13:11 pm     #



A publicly owned/controlled utility is an asset that attracts business especially when rates are low and stable. First Energy is unnecessary to Toledo's long-term viability and probably a liability.

Most people think it's low taxes businesses cherish but it's total cost of doing business and total aggregate demand that make commercial enterprises viable.

Theoretically lower utility rates produce higher taxable profits for all....budgets are balanced, kids get their substandard schooling, trash gets picked up every so often, grandma has money for smokes.

If I'm not mistaken Saint Libbey came to Toledo with the incentive of free land, cash, and low utility rates. Industrialists are suckers for bribes.

posted by charlatan on Mar 01, 2008 at 11:49:00 pm     #



I'd heard that the smarter groups of toledo/detroit/chicago mob went to legitimate business after the hammer started to drop on bootlegging and stolen goods. I wonder if they went into the utility business. Its so ironic that Toledo has these increible solar companies, and nobody is able to hook to the grid with a soalr farm, unless they want to get 2cents per KW hour,, while the edison charges 12 cents, soon to be 15 cents, followed by carbon tax and Clean Air Interstate Rule costs that will send it though the roof. Thin Film Solar and wind are already cheaper than F.E.s hose job on Toledo electricity users. When you add in the rate increases that are coming soon, current solar technology is cheaper than FE.

posted by prime3end on Mar 02, 2008 at 12:30:50 am     #



The use to have locally owned utilities. Toledo Edison, think the plant still stands on the east side of the river. Everybody hated it and hence it demise. Same with steam heat for all downtown, Steam Plant, people hated it now its defunct. Seems a lot of people only hate things till they are gone then forget they caused a lot of it to go the way of the dinosaur.

posted by Linecrosser on Mar 02, 2008 at 02:11:28 am     #



Capitalism's viciousness is going to continue to school Toledoans until they finally wake up and get pro-active about the future. Energy costs are going to continue to rise, and steeply at times. Either invest in energy efficiency methods and devices, or suffer. There is NO THIRD OPTION.

Those who don't think I know what I'm talking about simply don't understand that I didn't run my natural-gas fueled furnace AT ALL this winter. I'll be posting soon about how I managed that.

posted by GuestZero on Mar 03, 2008 at 10:17:16 am     #



Linecrosser, are you sure Toledo Edison was a private company and everyone hated it?
I can't find a history on Edison.

posted by charlatan on Mar 03, 2008 at 08:53:32 pm     #