Does anyone know who to contact regarding workplace standards in regards to treatment of employees and equal paid sick days and the like. As in one employee getting paid sick time as stated in the employee handbook yet not others, hostile and derogatory comments causing employees to become so upset they can not function. Among other things.
Workplace Ethics!
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Might check it out with the Ohio Labor Board , or Ohio Employment & Labor Law
posted by GraphicsGuy on Apr 30, 2008 at 04:22:57 pm #
First, find another employer that gives you a better deal in exchange for what you're giving them. Stop doing business with your company the way you would stop doing business with a restaurant that doesn't give you good service.
Then, once your employment is safe, as long as it is truthful, let everyone know about the practices of your previous employer (just as you might let everyone know about bad service at a restaurant). Use the power of the Internet and blogs like this - name names. If it wasn't an isolated incident, yours won't be the only stories about that company. That will make it hard for the company to attract the quality level of employees that their competitor does (the competitor being the one you now work for that treats people well). It will also put a bad taste in the mouths of their potential customers and investors.
If everyone did that, then not only would everyone end up with a better job, they would also have the extra cash in their pocket that was taken to fund unions, the Ohio Labor Board and all of the Ohio Employment and Labor Law.
If, on the other hand, you choose not to manage your own career and rely on unions and government to do it for you, your company will simply use its lobbyists (or it's industry association's lobbyists) to fight back and neutralize the situation - which will more than likely not make you any better off. And in the end, both you and I will also being paying for those lobbyists in the form of lower pay and higher prices.
So, effectively, by delegating your free will, you are paying two sides to fight each other.
For all of our sake's - get another job.
Always try to resolve internally first via Human Resources manager.
posted by justareviewer on Apr 30, 2008 at 07:21:36 pm #
Ryan is right, I have tried but with 18 years with the same company, it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks. And by the way, I am the HR manager as well as everything else but the boss.
This is from swampbubbles.com yet I know what babbleman is talking about..
We have documented everything, even past employees. yet as Ohiokay said we could still be out of a job (if we get a lawyer). I'm the money maker in my home as well as the others that's why we feel stuck. Not wanting to sound stupid...but is there a union we could join to help protect us? I mean there are laws protecting workers wanting to unionize right? You see, we are considered suport staff for a "franchise" so to speak. There are at least 50 of us in the Toledo area and at least 200 in northwest Ohio. I happen to be stuck the longest. 18 years with no benefits what so ever just hourly rate and if lucky a raise every 7,8,9, or 10 years depending on my bosses mood. And I'm not the only one. I am being vauge because I don't want to jepordize anyone's job. This abuse does go on at most offices. I want to get info to help us all. Is there a union we could join, can we form one? Is there anyone that can direct us in the right direction? It's gone on to long!
P.S> please forgive any misspelling, it's late.
So, Babbleman. How do I not only do it for myself, but my fellow piers. Without as you say rely on the unions and goverment. I really would love to be able to help them and myself without lining others pockets.
We can't strike or hold a sick in, our jobs are not protected.
What do the little people like us do?
I wish I had a suggestion Eastsider. You've got my support from my little corner of the universe. David Zoll is probably one of the best lawyers in the area who covers employment law. Perhaps he would give you a consultation. I'm guessing that if it is a franchise that the person's responsible are not at the local level but more at the corporate level.
With the advent of all these nifty recording devices, you can gather whatever pertinent evidence you need, audio and video.
If you go the union route (which in the long run theoretically makes the workplace more democratic, flexible, and rewarding), I believe your anonymity is protected. Companies that allegedly don't have the money to pay people all the sudden have money to bring in teams of people to train their workforce on the evils of unions.
Contact the union hall.
And babbs doesn't understand economics nor ethics too well, so bear that in mind when you ignore his tired reactionary shtick.... It doesn't work for him but it might work for you. LOL
Best wishes.
What do the little people like us do?
Start by not thinking of yourself as a little person. The only way you are little or oppressed by them is if you let them oppress you by staying there. You are a free person and free to work wherever you want. I understand that it may take some time to find another job and there is a lot of risk in the transition. But it sounds like you have time.You've been there 18 years and there is something you don't like - but it is not an immediate threat. Look around at other things you might want to do, think about what kind of income you want, talk to people. Maybe it takes you 6 months or a year - but just leave and join a team you can be proud of. Once you do, I guarantee you will feel like a much bigger person :)
Email mail if you want to discuss more.
So, Babbleman. How do I not only do it for myself, but my fellow piers.
First and foremost, worry about yourself. Get a better deal for yourself with another employer. Then, once that is all set, you have already led by example. Help others do the same if you feel so compelled - but don't make it your priority until you are on the other side.Regarding charlatan, socialists like him have to have victims and oppressed people to justify their position as caretakers. As such, unions and government are not only their partners, they are their inventions. If you rise above that feeling of being a little person and cut a better deal for yourself, two things will happen. First, you won't have a need for unions or government. Second, charlatan will be less needed - and since that will be threatening to him, he will turn 180 degrees and hate you. You will have left his little pen.
Come on out Eastsider - I'm sure that you can do it!
You can help yourself by refusing to be a "little people". The best way to handle workplace problems is to utilize the local rules to your benefit. If it means writing grievances, write them. Or filing formal complaints,etc. Use "the system" against itself.
posted by CharlieA-Z on May 01, 2008 at 11:02:16 am #
If it's not non-union shop then you're SOL...
posted by SensorG on Apr 30, 2008 at 03:15:43 pm #