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This would get a "F" in Journalism 100. AWFUL!

created by Molsonator on Jul 21, 2016 at 04:07:53 pm     Comments: 69

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Damn...Maumee keeps annexing more property without telling anyone.

posted by JustaSooner on Jul 21, 2016 at 04:45:25 pm     #  

I'll take your word on the "F" for journalism.

But I'll add that the WTOL web article gets an "A" for successfully being a slow-loading, bloated mess.

I resorted to viewing the page with JavaScript disabled to keep my computer from bursting into flames. The media's war on the web continues.

At least the Blade's new website seems to be slimming down some, possibly reducing page load time, the number of requests, and the amount of cruft downloaded by more than 50 percent.

webpagetest.org results for the above WTOL web page.

From: Dulles, VA - Chrome - Cable - 7/21/2016, 5:43:57 PM

First View Fully Loaded:

  • Time: 30.374 seconds
  • Requests: 425
  • Bytes In: 11,520 KB

The article contained one image. 1175 × 718 pixels. 128,245 bytes. Not bad.

The raw text for the body of the article was only 845 bytes. 149 words. Even if the plain text was converted to simple HTML text, it should still be under 5,000 bytes.

845 bytes of plain text and one 128 KB image requires over 10 megabytes of crap to get downloaded.

In olden days, if you wanted to copy that 2016 web "page" to diskette, you would need 8 of the 1.44 mb diskettes.

Fuckin' A.

April 2016 - Wired.com - The Average Webpage Is Now the Size of the Original Doom

Today the average webpage is about the same size, data-wise, as the classic computer game Doom.

A compressed copy of the installer for the shareware version of Doom takes up about 2.39MB of space.

Today’s average webpage, meanwhile, requires users to download about 2.3MB worth of data, according to HTTP Archive.

That’s not totally analogous comparison, but it does illustrate the web’s growing obesity problem.

“Recall that Doom is a multi-level first person shooter that ships with an advanced 3D rendering engine and multiple levels, each comprised of maps, sprites, and sound effects,” Cremin writes.

That WTOL web article is 5 times the size of the shareware Doom installer. This is a national crisis that I'm guessing won't be discussed at the conventions.

posted by jr on Jul 21, 2016 at 05:45:04 pm     #   4 people liked this

"Cleveland man wanted after burning toddler caught in Toledo". So glad they caught that burning toddler, who knows what havoc it could have wreaked! Hope they get that wanted man, too! People are crazy these days! Thanks, WTOL! XD

Hey, jr, are we gonna get those cool emojis, too?

posted by nana on Jul 21, 2016 at 07:58:16 pm     #   4 people liked this

JustaSooner posted at 05:45:25 PM on Jul 21, 2016:

Damn...Maumee keeps annexing more property without telling anyone.

Maumee mailing address. Anthony Wayne Schools, I believe.

posted by ahmahler on Jul 21, 2016 at 08:05:47 pm     #  

ahmahler posted at 09:05:47 PM on Jul 21, 2016:
JustaSooner posted at 05:45:25 PM on Jul 21, 2016:

Damn...Maumee keeps annexing more property without telling anyone.

Maumee mailing address. Anthony Wayne Schools, I believe.

It would be Anthony Wayne yes, since that is Monclova Township.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Maumee,+OH/@41.5697722,-83.6978235,13z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x883c77283dd3a905:0x928ad11d6566273e!8m2!3d41.5628294!4d-83.6538244

Pretty much every west of 475 is Monclova or Waterville except for the Dana lot east of Technology Drive and the strip of land that goes out to Fallen Timbers.

posted by JustaSooner on Jul 21, 2016 at 10:00:01 pm     #  

nana posted at 08:58:16 PM on Jul 21, 2016:

"Cleveland man wanted after burning toddler caught in Toledo". So glad they caught that burning toddler, who knows what havoc it could have wreaked! Hope they get that wanted man, too! People are crazy these days! Thanks, WTOL! XD

Hey, jr, are we gonna get those cool emojis, too?

You can always use copy-paste the URL and use img src or another code:

Or copy-paste text-based emojis from a site like this:

🎅 👼 👸 👰 🚶 🏃 💃

posted by historymike on Jul 22, 2016 at 06:31:15 am     #   1 person liked this

Maumee is far too polite to even consider annexing their neighbors. No toe-stepping allowed in m-town. That's why they likely won't grow in population for... ... ... the rest of the century.

posted by mixman on Jul 22, 2016 at 07:20:39 am     #  

So long as Maumee pays its bills and they pick up my trash, I am happy... a wall across the South Toledo boarder would be nice too.

posted by Molsonator on Jul 22, 2016 at 07:34:49 am     #   2 people liked this

S'ok you beer swilling elitist exclusionist. We will build one taller with barb-wire, a moat, gatling guns and dobermans. ⚓ 🙆🏿 ⛵️ (thks Mike for the link)

posted by Mariner on Jul 22, 2016 at 08:53:27 am     #   3 people liked this

I think that is what the Turnpike is. :)

posted by Molsonator on Jul 22, 2016 at 09:00:46 am     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/fx27CKPx

1St downtown got a grocery store located by the mall now the warehouse district has an approved ORA. These people are jokes.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 23, 2016 at 09:10:52 am     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/fx27CKPx

1St downtown got a grocery store located by the mall now the warehouse district has an approved ORA. These people are jokes.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jul 23, 2016 at 09:10:58 am     #  

In_vin_veritas posted at 10:10:58 AM on Jul 23, 2016:

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/fx27CKPx

1St downtown got a grocery store located by the mall now the warehouse district has an approved ORA. These people are jokes.

????

posted by daddyg on Jul 23, 2016 at 10:45:39 am     #  

I believe they are 2 different districts. Adams at is first, warehouse district will follow. It read confusing, I agree.

posted by ahmahler on Jul 23, 2016 at 12:07:40 pm     #  

You are correct. Two districts. Uptown first, warehouse second. And yes, local reporting is just awful.

posted by upso on Jul 23, 2016 at 01:00:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

Near Airport and Reynolds, or neighborhood 's quiet as a mouse, but I'm sure Molsonator could never believe that.

posted by decent28 on Aug 06, 2016 at 06:57:37 pm     #  

http://m.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2016/09/06/here-are-channel-19s-helpful-tips-for-keeping-reporters-on-brand-and-focusing-on-their-target-audience

Lest anyone forget for a moment that local television news stopped being about journalism long before Ron Burgundy lost Baxter.

posted by ahmahler on Sep 06, 2016 at 09:38:26 pm     #   2 people liked this

From WTOL's coverage of the Issue 20 levy:

LUCAS COUNTY, OH (WTOL) -
The heroin addicts here in Northwest Ohio is just hurting addicts, but their children as well.

I mean, c'mon.

posted by Anniecski on Sep 29, 2016 at 07:40:51 am     #  

Doesn't anybody proof read anymore? I've noticed an increase in the frequency of their notifications sent to my phone also. And don't get me started about the early morning show with the anchor that reminds me of a Lego character or the weather guy that does ballet when doing the weather. My eyes get tired following him back and forth across the screen.

posted by marving on Sep 29, 2016 at 12:45:24 pm     #  

I think Jordan Strack (based on twitter posts) is no longer a sports reporter but a political (Hillary) commentator. Its a shame he thinks people care about his opinion.

posted by Molsonator on Sep 29, 2016 at 01:05:13 pm     #   3 people liked this

Yeah, why would a guy with 9,372 followers on Twitter think that anyone wants his opinion on anything!

posted by Progress22 on Sep 29, 2016 at 01:08:21 pm     #  

Yeah, why would a guy with 9,372 followers on Twitter think that anyone wants his opinion on anything!

posted by Progress22 on Sep 29, 2016 at 01:08:25 pm     #  

Molsonator posted at 02:05:13 PM on Sep 29, 2016:

I think Jordan Strack (based on twitter posts) is no longer a sports reporter but a political (Hillary) commentator. Its a shame he thinks people care about his opinion.

He's talking about intelligent people, Progress.

posted by madjack on Sep 29, 2016 at 01:28:50 pm     #  

Progress22 posted at 02:08:21 PM on Sep 29, 2016:

Yeah, why would a guy with 9,372 followers on Twitter think that anyone wants his opinion on anything!

Jordan also shouted down Taylor and Nolan from The Blade as being inferior journalists for having fewer followers than him. Quality over quantity, I say.

posted by TrilbyGuy on Sep 29, 2016 at 06:49:33 pm     #   3 people liked this

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/Slh76WCT

How is this a clinic it is people protesting clinic man WTOL just likes to give reasons for this thread to keep going.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:00:06 pm     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/Slh76WCT

How is this a clinic it is people protesting clinic man WTOL just likes to give reasons for this thread to keep going.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:00:10 pm     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/Slh76WCT

How is this a clinic it is people protesting clinic man WTOL just likes to give reasons for this thread to keep going.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:04:56 pm     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db/347256/content/Slh76WCT

How is this a clinic it is people protesting clinic man WTOL just likes to give reasons for this thread to keep going.

posted by In_vin_veritas on Oct 21, 2016 at 12:05:10 pm     #  

You're doing a great job keeping this thread going all by yourself, Vin. :)

posted by nana on Oct 21, 2016 at 07:14:39 pm     #  

OMG its going to snow. ALERT DAY X2. It's almost Thanksgiving , it happens every year.

posted by marving on Nov 16, 2016 at 05:13:41 am     #   2 people liked this

Yet people will drive as if it is the first time ever.

posted by justread on Nov 16, 2016 at 06:12:55 am     #   1 person liked this

Posted on WTOL's Facebook page about 10 minutes ago: a story about the new Tony Packo's moving into the former Del Taco in East Toledo. Not just a headline, but an article about the East Toledo location.

posted by dell_diva on May 01, 2017 at 05:22:16 pm     #  

They are getting pummeled with negative posts. Funny stuff.

https://www.facebook.com/wtol11/

posted by Molsonator on May 01, 2017 at 05:36:31 pm     #  

This just in via WTOL Facebook... a college student was "sexually allegedly assaulted".

posted by dell_diva on May 01, 2017 at 09:26:32 pm     #  

There retry of the post this morning included this paragraph:

"Both locations will have carry out and dine-in option, along with a drive through window. However, there no waiter service like the locations in east Toledo and downtown."

posted by Molsonator on May 03, 2017 at 05:49:38 am     #  

The Trending Today section of WTOL's home page has had "Green Moon Hoax" on it since April 20th 2016. Apparently the intern doesn't handle anything below the fold.

posted by Molsonator on Jun 11, 2017 at 03:31:42 pm     #  

Really sickened by their story today regarding the gentleman who died after falling from the apartment on Summit Street. They included a gory detail that did not need to be known by the general public. I'm not going to repeat it here but they really should be ashamed.

posted by dell_diva on Jun 12, 2017 at 12:16:10 pm     #  

They must have seen your post and removed the detail(s).

posted by Foodie on Jun 12, 2017 at 12:51:56 pm     #  

They did. Sorry I read the early version. I didn't need that image.

posted by justread on Jun 12, 2017 at 01:03:00 pm     #  

I saw that gory detail in person that WTOL reported when I was walking home for lunch. Then when I got back to work I read that what was posted I just couldn’t believe it. Not to mention the people out front taking photos. He had attempted jumping a few weeks ago as well. So sad.

posted by stooks on Jun 12, 2017 at 01:39:58 pm     #  

http://m.wtol.com/toledonewsnow/db_347256/contentdetail.htm?contentguid=E16h6ldO

Didn't know Wade was the Auditor too...thought that was Anita's job...lol

posted by WestToledoan on Jul 22, 2017 at 07:37:24 pm     #  

Annnnnd they changed it already, damn.

posted by WestToledoan on Jul 22, 2017 at 07:41:02 pm     #  

"Family raises reward money for son's murder"

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Family-raises-reward-money-for-sons-murder-439501383.html

Does the headline seem a little odd to anyone else?

posted by JoeyGee on Aug 10, 2017 at 01:26:42 pm     #   1 person liked this

Indeed

posted by upso on Aug 10, 2017 at 01:51:17 pm     #  

From WTOL reporting on the Maumee Rally yesterday:

The event organizers asked attendees who are white allies to provide a human barrier for people of other and other marginalized people in order to allow them to voice their concerns and opinions.

They loved this paragraph about "other and other" so much they put it in the article twice (Which is barely readable).

http://www.wtol.com/story/36128643/rally-in-maumee-protests-against-white-supremacist-terrorism

posted by Molsonator on Aug 15, 2017 at 05:54:28 am     #  

Another quote from the article:

His mom is familiar with events of this nature because is the one who took him to see Martin Luther King Junior during the civil rights movement

"because is the one" and the decided not to use a period.

posted by Molsonator on Aug 15, 2017 at 05:58:00 am     #  

Another quote from the article:

His mom is familiar with events of this nature because is the one who took him to see Martin Luther King Junior during the civil rights movement

"because is the one" and the decided not to use a period.

posted by Molsonator on Aug 15, 2017 at 05:58:48 am     #  

As of this morning, they were still referring to the individual accused of murder in Charlottesville as "Maumee resident" on the news. Must not have received the memo from the Mayor: http://www.maumee.org/

posted by SavageFred on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:35:39 am     #  

As of this morning, they were still referring to the individual accused of murder in Charlottesville as "Maumee resident" on the news. Must not have received the memo from the Mayor: http://www.maumee.org/

posted by SavageFred on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:36:38 am     #  

Sorry for the DP. Spinning wheel of color still, uh, spinning.

posted by SavageFred on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:37:42 am     #  

SavageFred posted at 10:36:38 AM on Aug 15, 2017:

As of this morning, they were still referring to the individual accused of murder in Charlottesville as "Maumee resident" on the news. Must not have received the memo from the Mayor: http://www.maumee.org/

That's a pretty strange statement. His mother lives in Monclova, his apartment was Oak Hill at Holland-Sylvania and Garden. Semantics of mailing address vs. actual city of residency are pretty irrelevant. He was our neighbor and someone IN the community. He likely drove through Maumee and patronized plenty of Maumee businesses.

posted by ahmahler on Aug 15, 2017 at 11:01:47 am     #  

Everyone makes mistakes.

What did we do to Iran? I visited the CNN website, shortly after Noon today, and I learned that the country of Iran was about to attack Florida. In my opinion, a hurricane watch is an odd warning system for an impending military attack.

posted by jr on Sep 07, 2017 at 11:28:55 am     #   2 people liked this

I knew it. The hurricane is just a front.

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 07, 2017 at 12:30:41 pm     #   1 person liked this

That joke sets a low bar.

posted by justread on Sep 07, 2017 at 01:24:52 pm     #   1 person liked this

justread posted at 02:24:52 PM on Sep 07, 2017:

That joke sets a low bar.

Time for a limbo contest! How low can you go?

posted by madjack on Sep 07, 2017 at 03:15:33 pm     #   1 person liked this

I don't know... 910, 920 mb.

posted by justread on Sep 07, 2017 at 03:18:04 pm     #   2 people liked this

justread posted at 02:24:52 PM on Sep 07, 2017:

That joke sets a low bar.

I saw the opportunity and Iran with it.

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 07, 2017 at 03:24:29 pm     #   6 people liked this

This morning's top story at yahoo.com indicates that the accused no longer face trial. Now they hit the trail.

posted by jr on Sep 12, 2017 at 09:27:46 am     #  

Yes! Make them drive the Trail!

posted by JoeyGee on Sep 12, 2017 at 09:46:36 am     #   1 person liked this

Anthony Wayne Trial.

posted by justread on Sep 12, 2017 at 09:54:39 am     #   1 person liked this

Woe betide to them awhile.

posted by Mariner on Sep 12, 2017 at 10:30:15 am     #  

I have the "Big Board Friday" app on my phone. It is worse than their website. Nothing lines up, text over pictures, random letters floating on the screen....just terrible. The only advertiser on the site is Frickers. Maybe they just don't care at this point.

posted by Molsonator on Sep 15, 2017 at 05:37:52 am     #  

Molsonator posted at 06:37:52 AM on Sep 15, 2017:

I have the "Big Board Friday" app on my phone. It is worse than their website. Nothing lines up, text over pictures, random letters floating on the screen....just terrible. The only advertiser on the site is Frickers. Maybe they just don't care at this point.

WTOL is owned by Raycom Media that had $1.2 billion in revenue last year. This is not a mom & pop outfit running the joint.

For a thread to last this long on how shitty their web offerings are, perhaps complain directly to Raycom so somebody's ass gets lit on fire locally. I know, first-hand, how absolutely critical website/app stuff is to media companies nowadays.

I don't think they'd like to hear (or see) how awful their products look.

posted by oldhometown on Sep 15, 2017 at 01:51:37 pm     #  

Wasn’t sure how to post a link to a Facebook post but this is WTOL’s lead in to a story about CBS employee and local boy made good Steve Hartman:

“On CBS Evening News tonight, former WTOL employee Charles Kuralt will celebrated the 50th anniversary of his "On the Road" series on CBS.

A half-century later, Kuralt talked to Jerry Anderson about his experiences meeting people around the country in a motorhome.”

Good God...

posted by daddyg on Oct 27, 2017 at 06:33:25 pm     #  

I want to see Jerry's motorhome.

posted by justread on Oct 27, 2017 at 06:40:11 pm     #   3 people liked this

Weekday early mornings while I'm putting our lunches together, when I get sick and tired of that idiot talking head Jeff Smith on WTVG, I'll pop over to WTOL in the hope of actually hearing some worthwhile local news. I'm almost immediately reminded what a schmaltzy, overly folksy station it is.

This city needs a media enema.

posted by Foodie on Oct 27, 2017 at 07:18:49 pm     #   2 people liked this

Weekday early mornings while I'm putting our lunches together

I picture this as Norman Rockwell would have. :)

posted by justread on Oct 28, 2017 at 05:04:44 am     #  

Had more in mind an Ansel Adams with sharp contrasts in lighting. :}

posted by Mariner on Oct 28, 2017 at 05:33:59 am     #  

You both lend a far better "mind's eye" vision than it is - and I thank you for that.

I won't bother disappointing you with a description of the visual reality.

posted by Foodie on Oct 28, 2017 at 01:43:35 pm     #