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It was bad enough when Nazis showed up in North Toledo some years back. It sucked that they showed up again on 419 Day a couple of years ago.

But damn. The guy who killed someone at a peaceful protest in Charlottesville was from here ?

I wish I could say I was surprised, really. Last year, I started working for a civil rights firm. While I love my job, I am amazed at how evil people can be to each other, all over skin color. Or religion. Or disability.

I am so, so sorry for the victims. I'd offer thoughts and prayers, but I think the time for that is passed. It's time for real action, and education about race.

created by Anniecski on Aug 13, 2017 at 08:50:12 am     Comments: 13

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I know there is still much work to be done locally on the issues you mentioned, but part of me was a little relieved to hear that he had only been living in the area for a year.

(He was raised in Florence, Kentucky. His mom moved up here last year for a job, and he came with her.)

I will never understand what makes a person be so hateful. :(

posted by mom2 on Aug 13, 2017 at 09:08:41 am     #  

I know there is still much work to be done locally on the issues you mentioned, but part of me was a little relieved to hear that he had only been living in the area for a year.

(He was raised in Florence, Kentucky. His mom moved up here last year for a job, and he came with her.)

I will never understand what makes a person be so hateful. :(

posted by mom2 on Aug 13, 2017 at 09:09:19 am     #   2 people liked this

(Damn double post - I shouldn't be allowed here before coffee)

posted by mom2 on Aug 13, 2017 at 09:10:26 am     #  

News says he was a transplant not an original plug from Maumee so the linkage to that city is unfortunate and not accurate. The last sentence of Clarence Darrow's closing argument from the famous Scopes Monkey trial in Dayton Tennessee 1925 was a plea against bigotry, hatred and intolerance. We still need to turn onto that compass heading.

posted by Mariner on Aug 13, 2017 at 09:14:57 am     #  

So, is the suspect the Securitas security guard from the Kroger liquor store? He looks familiar.

posted by justread on Aug 14, 2017 at 01:26:36 pm     #  

According to reports, he did work for Securitas

posted by Hoops on Aug 14, 2017 at 02:20:58 pm     #  

Ran across this article on the Blade's coverage:

https://www.cjr.org/analysis/toledo-blade-charlottesville.php?utm_content=buffer39b9e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=linkedin.com&utm_campaign=buffer

One interesting part:

Through voter and vehicle registration records, he says, the Blade found that the car was registered ...

I knew voter records were public, but vehicle registration records are public?

posted by not_me on Aug 15, 2017 at 09:52:28 pm     #  

very much so

posted by upso on Aug 15, 2017 at 11:47:25 pm     #  

upso posted at 11:47:25 PM on Aug 15, 2017:

very much so

Got a link where it can be searched? I went looking, but the only thing I found is if you already had the VIN, and it also said:

Ohio Revised Code 4501.27 prohibits the BMV from releasing private owner information.

How do you go from a plate number or a description to a name like the Blade did?

posted by not_me on Aug 16, 2017 at 07:19:31 am     #  

BMV records are most decidedly NOT public record. Ask the former employee at the BMV who released information about Joe the Plumber.

Journalists are supposed to blur vehicle registration (although not bound by law to do so) because of the privacy of such records.

Nonetheless, journalists do have their source as do private investigators. When I was a PI, I had a friendly cop who would run plates and operator license checks for me for the price of lunch.

posted by MemyselfandI on Aug 16, 2017 at 05:43:38 pm     #  

I never understood blurring license plates in news photos or on TV reports. The plates are out there for the public to view on a daily basis and there's no directory a TV viewer or newspaper/online reader can go to to look it up.

posted by clt212 on Aug 17, 2017 at 08:49:49 am     #  

MemyselfandI posted at 05:43:38 PM on Aug 16, 2017:

BMV records are most decidedly NOT public record. Ask the former employee at the BMV who released information about Joe the Plumber.

Journalists are supposed to blur vehicle registration (although not bound by law to do so) because of the privacy of such records.

Nonetheless, journalists do have their source as do private investigators. When I was a PI, I had a friendly cop who would run plates and operator license checks for me for the price of lunch.

So basically the Blade admitted they used illegal sources to get the information and possibly has put the person who ran the plates in the 'system' in jeopardy of losing their job.

posted by not_me on Aug 17, 2017 at 12:31:55 pm     #  

Do as I say not what I do.

posted by Mariner on Aug 17, 2017 at 02:26:33 pm     #