A A A A Search :
Toledo Talk   (musing about Lake Erie West and beyond)
From charlatan's workspace   

The world's verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for An America that disdains Obama for his global support risks turning current anti-Bush feeling into something far worse

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/10/uselections2008.barackobama

The world's verdict will be harsh if the US rejects the man it yearns for
An America that disdains Obama for his global support risks turning current anti-Bush feeling into something far worse
All comments ()

* Jonathan Freedland
*
o Jonathan Freedland
o The Guardian,
o Wednesday September 10 2008
o Article history

The feeling is familiar. I had it four years ago and four years before that: a sinking feeling in the stomach. It's a kind of physical pessimism which says: "It's happening again. The Democrats are about to lose an election they should win - and it could not matter more."

In my head, I'm not as anxious for Barack Obama's chances as I was for John Kerry's in 2004 or Al Gore's in 2000. He is a better candidate than both put together, and all the empirical evidence says this year favours Democrats more than any since 1976. But still, I can't shake off the gloom.

Look at yesterday's opinion polls, which have John McCain either in a dead heat with Obama or narrowly ahead. Given the well-documented tendency of African-American candidates to perform better in polls than in elections - thanks to people who say they will vote for a black man but don't - this suggests Obama is now trailing badly. More troubling was the ABC News-Washington Post survey which found McCain ahead among white women by 53% to 41%. Two weeks ago, Obama had a 15% lead among women. There is only one explanation for that turnaround, and it was not McCain's tranquilliser of a convention speech: Obama's lead has been crushed by the Palin bounce.

So you can understand my pessimism. But it's now combined with a rising frustration. I watch as the Democrats stumble, uncertain how to take on Sarah Palin. Fight too hard, and the Republican machine, echoed by the ditto-heads in the conservative commentariat on talk radio and cable TV, will brand Democrats sexist, elitist snobs, patronising a small-town woman. Do nothing, and Palin's rise will continue unchecked, her novelty making even Obama look stale, her star power energising and motivating the Republican base.

So somehow Palin slips out of reach, no revelation - no matter how jaw-dropping or career-ending were it applied to a normal candidate - doing sufficient damage to slow her apparent march to power, dragging the charisma-deprived McCain behind her.

We know one of Palin's first acts as mayor of tiny Wasilla, Alaska was to ask the librarian the procedure for banning books. Oh, but that was a "rhetorical" question, says the McCain-Palin campaign. We know Palin is not telling the truth when she says she was against the notorious $400m "Bridge to Nowhere" project in Alaska - in fact, she campaigned for it - but she keeps repeating the claim anyway. She denounces the dipping of snouts in the Washington trough - but hired costly lobbyists to make sure Alaska got a bigger helping of federal dollars than any other state.

She claims to be a fiscal conservative, but left Wasilla saddled with debts it had never had before. She even seems to have claimed "per diem" allowances - taxpayers' money meant for out-of-town travel - when she was staying in her own house.

Yet somehow none of this is yet leaving a dent. The result is that a politician who conservative blogger Andrew Sullivan calls a "Christianist" - seeking to politicise Christianity the way Islamists politicise Islam - could soon be a heartbeat away from the presidency. Remember, this is a woman who once addressed a church congregation, saying of her work as governor - transport, policing and education - "really all of that stuff doesn't do any good if the people of Alaska's heart isn't right with God".

If Sarah Palin defies the conventional wisdom that says elections are determined by the top of the ticket, and somehow wins this for McCain, what will be the reaction? Yes, blue-state America will go into mourning once again, feeling estranged in its own country. A generation of young Americans - who back Obama in big numbers - will turn cynical, concluding that politics doesn't work after all. And, most depressing, many African-Americans will decide that if even Barack Obama - with all his conspicuous gifts - could not win, then no black man can ever be elected president.

But what of the rest of the world? This is the reaction I fear most. For Obama has stirred an excitement around the globe unmatched by any American politician in living memory. Polling in Germany, France, Britain and Russia shows that Obama would win by whopping majorities, with the pattern repeated in Africa, Asia, the Middle East and Latin America. If November 4 were a global ballot, Obama would win it handsomely. If the free world could choose its leader, it would be Barack Obama.

The crowd of 200,000 that rallied to hear him in Berlin in July did so not only because of his charisma, but also because they know he, like the majority of the world's population, opposed the Iraq war. McCain supported it, peddling the lie that Saddam was linked to 9/11. Non-Americans sense that Obama will not ride roughshod over the international system but will treat alliances and global institutions seriously: McCain wants to bypass the United Nations in favour of a US-friendly League of Democracies. McCain might talk a good game on climate change, but a repeated floor chant at the Republican convention was "Drill, baby, drill!", as if the solution to global warming were not a radical rethink of the US's entire energy system but more offshore oil rigs.

If Americans choose McCain, they will be turning their back on the rest of the world, choosing to show us four more years of the Bush-Cheney finger. And I predict a deeply unpleasant shift.

Until now, anti-Americanism has been exaggerated and much misunderstood: outside a leftist hardcore, it has mostly been anti-Bushism, opposition to this specific administration. But if McCain wins in November, that might well change. Suddenly Europeans and others will conclude that their dispute is with not only one ruling clique, but Americans themselves. For it will have been the American people, not the politicians, who will have passed up a once-in-a-generation chance for a fresh start - a fresh start the world is yearning for.

And the manner of that decision will matter, too. If it is deemed to have been about race - that Obama was rejected because of his colour - the world's verdict will be harsh. In that circumstance, Slate's Jacob Weisberg wrote recently, international opinion would conclude that "the United States had its day, but in the end couldn't put its own self-interest ahead of its crazy irrationality over race".

Even if it's not ethnic prejudice, but some other aspect of the culture wars, that proves decisive, the point still holds. For America to make a decision as grave as this one - while the planet boils and with the US fighting two wars - on the trivial basis that a hockey mom is likable and seems down to earth, would be to convey a lack of seriousness, a fleeing from reality, that does indeed suggest a nation in, to quote Weisberg, "historical decline". Let's not forget, McCain's campaign manager boasts that this election is "not about the issues."

Of course I know that even to mention Obama's support around the world is to hurt him. Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American. But what does that say about today's America, that the world's esteem is now unwanted? If Americans reject Obama, they will be sending the clearest possible message to the rest of us - and, make no mistake, we shall hear it.

ยท freedland@guardian.co.uk

created by charlatan on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:33:55 am     Comments: 20

print      source      versions

Comments ... #

Sorry...but if Obama really wanted to win he would have selected Hillary. His choice of Champ Biden reflects his poor decision-making...something to consider regarding the responsibilities of the nation's highest office.

posted by justareviewer on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:34:29 am     #



Actually that’s not true at all. There are still a lot of idiots out there that will not vote for a black man or a woman. Can you see them on the same ticket? Besides, Biden is beloved by longtime Dems and makes fence sitters feel comfortable with an older white male in the seat.

posted by Ryan on Sep 10, 2008 at 11:44:27 am     #



I would have been really turned off if he had chosen Hillary. As with McCain's choice of Palin, it would have shown he was less interested in the safety of our nation and more interested the personality-side of politics.

Putting someone on the ticket simply to "appease" women shows just how wreckless and in the end, dangerous McCain really is.

Biden is a great choice in balancing out Obama's skills/experience. He's also leaps and bounds above Palin in the ability to lead the nation in case something were to happen to the President—and there is more than a slim chance that could happen in McCain's case... which begs the question, WTF was McCain thinking? Certainly not about putting country first.

posted by toledolen on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:26:35 pm     #



MCCain, the war hero,,is hiding behind the skirts of a woman.

posted by holland on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:27:10 pm     #



Here's Toledo's own Gloria Steinem's take:

http://womenagainstsarahpalin.blogspot.com/2008/09/gloria-steinem-wrong-woman-wrong.html

Wrong Woman, Wrong Message
By Gloria Steinem

Here's the good news: Women have become so politically powerful that even the anti-feminist right wing -- the folks with a headlock on the Republican Party -- are trying to appease the gender gap with a first-ever female vice president. We owe this to women -- and to many men too -- who have picketed, gone on hunger strikes or confronted violence at the polls so women can vote. We owe it to Shirley Chisholm, who first took the "white-male-only" sign off the White House, and to Hillary Rodham Clinton, who hung in there through ridicule and misogyny to win 18 million votes.

But here is even better news: It won't work. This isn't the first time a boss has picked an unqualified woman just because she agrees with him and opposes everything most other women want and need. Feminism has never been about getting a job for one woman. It's about making life more fair for women everywhere. It's not about a piece of the existing pie; there are too many of us for that. It's about baking a new pie.

Selecting Sarah Palin, who was touted all summer by Rush Limbaugh, is no way to attract most women, including die-hard Clinton supporters. Palin shares nothing but a chromosome with Clinton. Her down-home, divisive and deceptive speech did nothing to cosmeticize a Republican convention that has more than twice as many male delegates as female, a presidential candidate who is owned and operated by the right wing and a platform that opposes pretty much everything Clinton's candidacy stood for -- and that Barack Obama's still does. To vote in protest for McCain/Palin would be like saying, "Somebody stole my shoes, so I'll amputate my legs."

This is not to beat up on Palin. I defend her right to be wrong, even on issues that matter most to me. I regret that people say she can't do the job because she has children in need of care, especially if they wouldn't say the same about a father. I get no pleasure from imagining her in the spotlight on national and foreign policy issues about which she has zero background, with one month to learn to compete with Sen. Joe Biden's 37 years' experience.

Palin has been honest about what she doesn't know. When asked last month about the vice presidency, she said, "I still can't answer that question until someone answers for me: What is it exactly that the VP does every day?" When asked about Iraq, she said, "I haven't really focused much on the war in Iraq."

She was elected governor largely because the incumbent was unpopular, and she's won over Alaskans mostly by using unprecedented oil wealth to give a $1,200 rebate to every resident. Now she is being praised by McCain's campaign as a tax cutter, despite the fact that Alaska has no state income or sales tax. Perhaps McCain has opposed affirmative action for so long that he doesn't know it's about inviting more people to meet standards, not lowering them. Or perhaps McCain is following the Bush administration habit, as in the Justice Department, of putting a job candidate's views on "God, guns and gays" ahead of competence. The difference is that McCain is filling a job one 72-year-old heartbeat away from the presidency.

So let's be clear: The culprit is John McCain. He may have chosen Palin out of change-envy, or a belief that women can't tell the difference between form and content, but the main motive was to please right-wing ideologues; the same ones who nixed anyone who is now or ever has been a supporter of reproductive freedom. If that were not the case, McCain could have chosen a woman who knows what a vice president does and who has thought about Iraq; someone like Texas Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison or Sen. Olympia Snowe of Maine. McCain could have taken a baby step away from right-wing patriarchs who determine his actions, right down to opposing the Violence Against Women Act.

Palin's value to those patriarchs is clear: She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger.

I don't doubt her sincerity. As a lifetime member of the National Rifle Assn., she doesn't just support killing animals from helicopters, she does it herself. She doesn't just talk about increasing the use of fossil fuels but puts a coal-burning power plant in her own small town. She doesn't just echo McCain's pledge to criminalize abortion by overturning Roe vs. Wade, she says that if one of her daughters were impregnated by rape or incest, she should bear the child. She not only opposes reproductive freedom as a human right but implies that it dictates abortion, without saying that it also protects the right to have a child.

So far, the major new McCain supporter that Palin has attracted is James Dobson of Focus on the Family. Of course, for Dobson, "women are merely waiting for their husbands to assume leadership," so he may be voting for Palin's husband.

Being a hope-a-holic, however, I can see two long-term bipartisan gains from this contest.

Republicans may learn they can't appeal to right-wing patriarchs and most women at the same time. A loss in November could cause the centrist majority of Republicans to take back their party, which was the first to support the Equal Rights Amendment and should be the last to want to invite government into the wombs of women.

And American women, who suffer more because of having two full-time jobs than from any other single injustice, finally have support on a national stage from male leaders who know that women can't be equal outside the home until men are equal in it. Barack Obama and Joe Biden are campaigning on their belief that men should be, can be and want to be at home for their children.

This could be huge.

Gloria Steinem is an author, feminist organizer and co-founder of the Women's Media Center. She supported Hillary Clinton and is now supporting Barack Obama.

posted by toledolen on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:43:41 pm     #



True words holland. Let's also not forget, he would not be where he was today without Cindy McCain's millions. He has a record for using women for his political gains.

posted by pink_slip on Sep 10, 2008 at 12:45:52 pm     #



I don't consider polling data, especially polling data that is inconclusive, to be very relevant. There is still a lot of time left before the election.

Palin lost my consideration after lying about her non-support of the infamous Bridge to Nowhere. She also lied about her disdain for earmarks. For a candidate to compose two lies in their first major speech is incomprehensible. The fact that Palin is now carrying the Repulican ticket is also suspicious. I wonder if McCain has the personality and ability to step out of Palin's shadow. After all, this is a Presidential election.

Palin has to defend her lies in debate. With the mounting evidence, Palin won't be able to duck and cover.

McCain's ability to debate the issues with Obama, and vice-versa, will probably be the key. I don't know how that match-up will pan out, but I'm sure the upcoming debates will be some of the most watched debates in history.

posted by JJFad on Sep 10, 2008 at 01:08:15 pm     #



If I knew that Obama was going to start running negative ads against McCain, I would max out my donations right now. Obama tied his hands behind his back by taking the high road, thinking that if he could just talk to the issues, he would win. He needs to get wise that the presidential election is all about smashmouth politics and the sooner he gets tough, the sooner he will get ahead in the polls. Good advice from one of the Huffington Post bloggers today re: what Obama's strategy should be:

1. GET ON MESSAGE AND STAY ON MESSAGE. McCain = Bush, the economy sucks, our national security situation is more dire than ever due to the failed Republican policies. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat...

2. STOP REPEATING REPUBLICAN PROPAGANDA FOR THEM. If you don't believe that McCain is a maverick, then say what he is. Say he's unpredictable and impulsive in his decision-making and ask people if those are really the qualities that we want in our Commander in Chief.

3. Stop talking about Sarah Palin and rebutting her lies. NOBODY CARES WHAT THE FACTS ARE. They are influenced by her persona -- the impression they take away from her appearances. When you allow yourselves to become distracted and start serving as a Republican fact-checker, you come across as petty and self-congratulating. Same applies to McCain.

4. FOCUS ON OBAMA'S PERSONA AS COMMANDER IN CHIEF. Obama's special gift as a politician is to inspire people's trust -- work it to its fullest. Be hopeful and positive, sure, but also be strong and fierce. Show that Obama's leadership will combine the strength of the sword with the compassion of the chalice. He did a great job of this in his nomination acceptance speech -- but lately his pull-quotes are either wonky-to-the-extreme or on the self-congratulatory side.

5. BOLSTER OBAMA'S COMMANDER IN CHIEF CREDENTIALS. Get as many visuals of you with General Wesley Clark and other leaders in the fields of defense and foreign relations circulating as you can. The Republicans are running on the myth of McCain as a benevolent warrior -- and will be further ratcheting up the fear level in the weeks to come if their convention was any indication (repeated exploitation of 9/11 imagery, hundreds of recapitulations of McCain's POW story, etc.). GET AHEAD OF THIS ISSUE NOW.

6. USE MORE AND BETTER VISUALS in general. Recently, I was in South Carolina and saw, over and over again, one particularly ineffective Obama ad about reworking the US economy to employ more skilled labor again. Not only was the message was too esoteric for the purposes of the final 60 days of the campaign, but the visuals used in the ad were pathetic. Were they perhaps close-up photos of the time-ravaged faces and hands of working class Americans (toward whom the ad was apparently aimed)? No. The most common visual was windmills. Yes, that's right. Windmills. How working class America is supposed to be swayed to vote Democratic when they are viewing ads about windmills is just beyond me. Let's have some ads of a flag draped coffin in close up -- and then multiplied by more than 4000 times. Let's have some ads that feature a close up of a foreclosed home and a family who has been evicted -- then multiply that times however many thousands of foreclosures have taken place. Now those are visual that will reach working class Americans.

7. DON'T BE AFRAID TO GO NEGATIVE. Not all negative campaigns are equal. Describing John McCain as unpredictable, short-tempered and impulsive in his decision-making is a far different field of play than belittling John Kerry's war record. This is a war -- play to win. Once we're back in office, you can be as gracious as you please.

8. KISS: keep it simple, stupid. Every time we Democrats get into the "we're right, so if maybe we just explain it well enough then they'll understand" mode, we lose. The reality is that the vast majority of people feel condescended to when things are "explained" to them. Most people function on "gut" feelings and imagery and understand things best when they are presented in simplified, symbolic and concrete terms. This isn't because most people are stupid, however. It's because life is overwhelming as it is. People do not have the time, attention or inclination to take in and process units of complex information. If we learn nothing else from the influence of Karl Rove, let us at least learn this.

9. THE SUPREME COURT. My God, the stakes are high. Perhaps some ads that delineate how high and use testimonials from women might be in order? We do, after all, need to reach undecided women. My bet is that Sarah Palin's glamour will be a little less appealing once women are reminded that, under a Supreme Court dominated by Republican-appointed judges, their daughters might face a future in which they will not have the freedom to terminate a pregnancy even in the case of rape or incest.

10. GET ON MESSAGE AND STAY ON MESSAGE. McCain = Bush, the economy sucks, our national security situation is more dire than ever due to the failed Republican policies and the loss of the American moral high ground. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat...

posted by Ace_Face on Sep 10, 2008 at 02:19:14 pm     #



Palin is more and more looking like a religious extremist... That probably doesn't bode well in a position of diplomacy.

posted by charlatan on Sep 10, 2008 at 03:55:15 pm     #



Oh,I think we will all survive ok. Obama will lose this election and we'll just have to listen to four more years of liberal whining about everything.
Maybe Obama should promise raising the minimum wage to $50/hr. This way he wouldn't have to actually raise taxes to get the revenue he needs.
Plus everyone could then easily afford gasoline and as a bonus he'll make those bastard employers pay their fair share.
It could help him to swing the electorate his way.

posted by AmericanPie on Sep 10, 2008 at 04:11:48 pm     #



When Zer0bama looses we will be declared a racist nation again - with his rise and nomination not seen as evidence to the contrary.

The World's Verdict - is irrelevant. Politically, economically and morally.

Palin will fare well in the debates, although Biden is no rookie. Her "lies" need no defense for they are not lies. Yes she was for the bridge before she was against it. She still supports its need, just changed the method of funding given the negative and incorrect press coverage it got nationally.

Seeking federal funds for your municipality - is not inconsistent with or contradictory to a platform of earmark reform. A mayor's job is to seek support for their city and constituents, as is a Governors. As VP she can and will work toward reduced federal government spending projects which are neither necessary nor constitutional. Doing so will not be flip flopping or lying.

TAHL

posted by TheAssHoleLawyer on Sep 10, 2008 at 04:27:45 pm     #



Obama will lose this election and we'll just have to listen to four more years of liberal whining about everything.

America loses either way. Either Obama wins because of sexism, ageism and white guilt or McCain wins because of racism and Republican dirty tricks. Or at least that's how the partisans will see it. Either way, there will be plenty of blame to go around.

posted by Ace_Face on Sep 10, 2008 at 04:55:36 pm     #



Yep, the feminists want a strong, independent woman. But she has to be a LIBERAL. Same with blacks-conservative blacks need not apply. Palin shows everything they tout to be a lie.

posted by Darkseid on Sep 10, 2008 at 05:12:11 pm     #



There's a sliver of truth in Darkseid's words in that conservatism is anathema to feminism and civil rights. They're both liberal ideas

posted by pink_slip on Sep 10, 2008 at 05:38:21 pm     #



Palin: For the Bridge to Nowhere until the rest of America saw her hand in the cookie jar.
Despises earmarks, yet Alaska has gotten more earmarks per-capita than anything Obama has pulled off.
A fiscal conservative that saw the debt of Wasilla, Alaska go from 0 to 22 million while she was Mayor.

There are too many easy points to attack her on that will reverberate with the average American who is not going to look up facts, but just listen to debate.

Republicans had a field day with the Kerry flip-flopping like a fish out of water, and Palin gives Dems the same opportunity. Bad choice for McCain.

posted by JJFad on Sep 10, 2008 at 07:04:40 pm     #



BUT SHE HAS ALL THAT EXECUTIVE EXPERIENCE! HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN? HOW?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?

posted by Ryan on Sep 10, 2008 at 07:54:14 pm     #



LOL, hilarious, now the libs are trying to tell us we have to vote for their guy , "or everyone will hate us". If the world doesn't like who we elect they can eat me.

You people amaze me. You try and try to dig up shit on Palin, yet ignore stuff like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sAvzsDIP2E

And if you buy the bull that he didn't hear these remarks, you are dumber than I ever dreamed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8Wilxdw6GU

posted by JeepMaker on Sep 10, 2008 at 09:56:23 pm     #



I have to agree with JeepMaker. What the is wrong with people?!?! Trying to dig up facts about Presidential and VP candidates!!?? Really! Are you people out of your ever-lovin mind? We should not be digging up these facts about a person's past. WE SHOULD BEHOLD THE CANDIDATES WORD AS THOUGH IT WERE THE WORD OF THE LORD. HOW DARE YOU DISTRUST ANY STATEMENTS BY DIGGING UP A CANDIDATES PAST! Straight to hell, the whole bunch of ya.

posted by JJFad on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:29:08 pm     #



Why not judge them on their policies and integrity? Not their race, age, sex, hair color, plane crashes, religion, etc.

Oh wait, that's what reasonable people would do.... not the average vain emo types.

posted by charlatan on Sep 10, 2008 at 10:34:48 pm     #



This article is best described as 'pre-emptive' whining. I like it because the author leaves the impression that Obama's loss is a foregone conclusion. I can get behind that.

The author is also correct when writing, "Incredibly, that large Berlin crowd damaged Obama at home, branding him the "candidate of Europe" and making him seem less of a patriotic American." I think he should go back to Europe in pursuit of more American votes. Maybe it will work this time.

posted by AirTrainer on Sep 12, 2008 at 05:52:06 pm     #