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Privacy fence question

I was told that with privacy fencing if there are not two faced sides - ie, one side has the vertical boards and the framing is exposed to the other side, then the exposed (ugly) side needs to be on the inside, and not exposed to the neighbors - is that true?

created by billy on May 16, 2010 at 02:22:02 pm     Home     Comments: 25

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I always thought the exposed "ugly" side facing towards the yard of the person who put it up designated who put up the fence and who owned the fence. Maybe I'm wrong.

posted by poorboy on May 16, 2010 at 02:25:49 pm     #  

sent a msg to my councilman - he'll answer and I'll post out here.

posted by billy on May 16, 2010 at 02:27:08 pm     #  

I have always been told that the posts show who owns the fence because they should be on the owners side.

posted by Ryan on May 16, 2010 at 03:20:39 pm     #  

You are right, the ugly side goes in. I got the slightly more expensive fence that looks good on both sides and it allows air circulation.

posted by ilovetoledo on May 16, 2010 at 03:32:08 pm     #  

Any exposed framing should face the inside of the yard. Per Toledo's code and common rule of thumb.

Go to http://www.ci.toledo.oh.us/Departments/DepartmentofNeighborhoods/DivisionofBuildingInspection/HomeownerInformation/tabid/166/Default.aspx

and click "Fencing Requirements"

posted by slowsol on May 16, 2010 at 07:26:19 pm     #  

My jerkoff neighbor put up his with the finished side facing HIS yard.
This leave several inches between the privacy fence and the chain link where all kinds of weeds and crap grow...that I have to deal with.

posted by JeepMaker on May 16, 2010 at 07:35:06 pm     #  

Jeep its against code but not sure you could get anyone to do anything about it.

posted by Linecrosser on May 16, 2010 at 08:26:30 pm     #  

Jeep,

Here you are required to have a permit, and they come out and inspect the fence once it is installed, and if it's not done correctly they tell ya to tear it down, and do it right. Apparently Toledo doesn't do that.

posted by lfrost2125 on May 16, 2010 at 09:36:02 pm     #  

Toledo does have some rules about them, tho. Years ago, an old lady at the end of my street was able to stop her next door neighbor on the corner lot from putting up a privacy fence around their pool because it would block her view of her ride coming around the corner to pick her up! They actually had to get her permission and she was able to stop them. Jeep, I would call, that shit ain't right.

posted by nana on May 16, 2010 at 10:09:07 pm     #  

Noice link, slowsol, thanks!

posted by nana on May 16, 2010 at 10:11:30 pm     #  

That's another thing I forgot. Here you have to have your neighbors permission also.

posted by lfrost2125 on May 16, 2010 at 10:27:25 pm     #  

I believe there is a section in the Ohio Revised Code about fencing.
1-Yes, the ugly goes inside or on the installer's side
2-Can't be higher than 6' from the front of the house to the rear, and no higher than 4' from front of house forward to street.

At least that was what I read when I looked it up.

posted by hockeyfan on May 17, 2010 at 02:55:33 am     #  

You'd think that people would make this basic check before putting up a fence like that. After all, putting up ANY fencing should invoke an automatic check on your property line.

posted by GuestZero on May 17, 2010 at 09:40:54 am     #  

Here in Springfield Township, a permit is needed, but the fence can face either way.
http://www.springfieldtownship.net/Zoning101.htm

posted by jbtaurus98 on May 17, 2010 at 09:54:49 am     #  

http://www.ci.toledo.oh.us/Portals/0/Neighborhoods/Neighborhoods%20Documents/Fencing%20Requirements.pdf

"The finished side of all type fences (including chain link) must face the adjacent property, street or place."

posted by billy on May 17, 2010 at 10:12:15 am     #  

Jeep's neighbor sounds like a moron. A few inches? You can't get a mower down a few-inch path!

About five years ago when I was living in Bowling Green, the parking lot of my six-unit apartment building, at the rear of the building, was adjacent to an intersection of two alleys. Some idiot put a privacy fence up so that it totally blocked drivers' views coming from two of the four directions. Lots of people actually used the alleys to access our parking lot or several other houses' garages back there. I was not able to do anything about the fence, but I did convince the city to put up stop signs at the alleyway intersection. It didn't amend the fact that the intersection was totally blind from two directions, but it did at least force people to stop and use caution.

posted by jmleong on May 17, 2010 at 02:17:43 pm     #  

That's an excuse to call inspection, Jeeper, to make sure that guy is inside his property line.

posted by nana on May 17, 2010 at 02:35:02 pm     #  

This is the same neighbor, btw whose 40+foot pine tree (which he wanted gone but didn't want to pay to have it removed) uprooted during a windstorm about 4 years ago and caused $4000+ in damage to my garage. MY insurance had to cover it and I had to pay the $250 deductible.

posted by JeepMaker on May 17, 2010 at 04:08:58 pm     #  

Why didn't his insurance cover it? I ask because I have a friend who's neighbor's tree fell on their house 2 yrs ago and the neighbor's ins paid for repairs. I thought they all did.

posted by nana on May 17, 2010 at 04:50:43 pm     #  

Jeep...
I think I could get carried away with a little Round-up. If it happens to make it to his property....ooooops!

posted by KraZyKat on May 17, 2010 at 06:57:32 pm     #  

According to my insurance agent at the time Nana, Ohio laws says that your insurance policy is responsible for everything on your side of the property line. After it fell, all but about the bottom 6 feet were on my garage.

KK, did that last year, and I'll do it again this year. There are a couple of unknown trees growing between the fences, and I'll be damned if I can make those suckers die. I cut them off at the top of the fence, and went so far as to pound a couple of pennies down in the remaining part. I had heard copper will kill trees.....not these damn things, they grew back again.

posted by JeepMaker on May 17, 2010 at 07:03:45 pm     #  

Try copper nails, thats what I used to some luck.

posted by Ryan on May 17, 2010 at 11:12:22 pm     #  

yah, I agree with Kat, Roundup them suckers, copper takes too long, and if they are Tree of Heaven, even Roundup may not kill them.

Thanks for the info, unsure of the situ at my friends, I may have missed who's ins it was and just assumed. Now I know. :)

posted by nana on May 18, 2010 at 02:29:40 pm     #  

If your neighbor's tree falls on your property and causes damage, the only way their insurance can be forced to respond is if you (or your insurance carrier) can prove the tree was dead/dying/rotten/ready to fall down.

posted by Foodie on May 18, 2010 at 03:55:53 pm     #  

As for fence height - a few years ago, I put up a very nice vinyl privacy fence that has the same finish on both sides.
The rules may have changed but at the time, the height restriction (I live in Toledo) from the front corner of the house back to the rear property line was 7'. There was a previous post that mentioned 6'.

posted by Foodie on May 18, 2010 at 04:01:02 pm     #