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1978 Blizzard Redux ?

Caught Blizzard Bill at 6:00. He says we could get a blizzard next Wednesday with 14" of snow. I'm thinking - Nah.

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Below are excerpts from this afternoon's NWS forecast discussion. Emphasis added to the parts referring to northwest Ohio. In this afternoon's statements, the NWS no longer mentions the 12 to 16-inch total snowfall predictions and the near blizzard conditions.

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area forecast discussion
national weather service cleveland oh
255 pm est tue feb 1 2011

.near term /through tonight/...
no changes to the headlines. models now in fairly close agreement
with the track of the surface low. it appears that we will warm a
little more overnight than earlier thought.

nw ohio still expected to see the most significant snowfall but have cut accums down slightly because some freezing rain or sleet could mix with the snow later tonight. was concerned earlier about needing a blizzard warning as ne flow off of lake erie will get close to criteria. however...no longer think that is needed as any sleet or freezing rain that occurs will limit the amount of blowing and drifting.

.short term /wednesday through thursday night/...
the surface low will be overhead at daybreak tomorrow. this low
will rapidly move off to the east tomorrow. the dry slot will pass
just to the south. wrap around snow will affect the area tomorrow
with most locations seeing an inch or two of accumulation. the
precip should cut off quickly tomorrow afternoon and evening.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:26:25 pm     #   1 person liked this

This thing is getting wimper by the hour.

posted by SensorG on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:38:57 pm     #  

anonymouscoward said: “ I can't wait for your guns to go off while cleaning

There's never been a documented case of an unloaded gun going off. Sometimes, however, you can mishandle one of the springs and can send it flying across the table. Maybe you flaming liberals should ban springs.

At any rate, if you don't understand the need for self-defense in time of civil emergency, then you're a lost cause. Desperation drives people to harm others. And you must ever remember that you have the right to keep and bear arms, in such cases.

posted by GuestZero on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:43:06 pm     #  

SensorG said: “ This thing is getting wimp[i]er by the hour.

Good. Losing power around here in the winter is really the worst. I can't remember the last time that it happened to me, however.

posted by GuestZero on Feb 01, 2011 at 05:45:52 pm     #  

The 3:32 p.m. National Weather Service forecast for Toledo contains more ice than earlier forecasts.

Tonight... Snow...possibly mixing with sleet or freezing rain at times. Snow and sleet accumulation of 4 to 8 inches. Ice accumulation of up to a tenth of an inch. Windy with lows in the lower 20s. Temperature rising into the mid 20s after midnight. Northeast winds 20 to 30 mph with higher gusts. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.

Wednesday... Snow...mixing with sleet at times. Additional snow and sleet accumulation of 2 to 4 inches. Brisk with early highs in the mid 20s. Temperature falling into the lower 20s in the afternoon. North winds 15 to 25 mph with gusts up to 35 mph. Chance of precipitation near 100 percent.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 06:16:28 pm     #  

i just want to know if i have to work tomorrow! come on jr! let me know!

posted by upso on Feb 01, 2011 at 06:19:47 pm     #  

So much over-hype. These local TV stations...they hype the coming storm. Its all ratings. They hype a storm 4-5 days out...remember back on Saturday and Sunday, we were supposed to get 18+ inches of snow. This made the viewer tune into the next newscast. Ratings skyrocket. Which is more exciting? TV13 with all their hype and 5 meteorlogists or the truth?
This morning I saw an advertisement on 13 and 11 regarding promotions for their news and weather with regards to this "Storm". Hype!
We are down to 3-6 inches now...hardly a storm for these parts. Nobody likes the truth.....

posted by bolt98 on Feb 01, 2011 at 06:28:45 pm     #  

Lower snowfall totals does not equal "wimpier." Freezing rain, sleet, and ice are worse options than light fluffy snow.

posted by historymike on Feb 01, 2011 at 06:29:27 pm     #  

I just noticed this at WTOL

Blizzard Warning for some area counties, including Fulton, Henry, and Monroe counties.

NWS statement for Fulton County:

Statement as of 5:23 PM EST on February 01, 2011

The Blizzard Warning is now in effect until 7 PM EST Wednesday.

  • Timing... snow will increase in intensity through the early
    evening hours. The heaviest snowfall rates are expected tonight.
    The snow will likely be mixed with some sleet and freezing rain
    through late tonight with the greatest potential of freezing
    rain along and south of Route 24 where ice accumulation is
    possible. Snow will continue through Wednesday... gradually
    tapering in intensity during the afternoon. Northeast winds will
    increase early this evening.
  • Main impact... snowfall amounts of 8 to 12 inches are expected.
    Sustained winds of 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 45 mph will
    create dangerous conditions... with blizzard conditions and zero
    visibilities in blowing snow at times and significant drifting.
    Snow drifts of 4 to 8 feet will be possible in many open areas.
    In addition... some ice accumulation is possible especially
    during the evening hours.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 06:58:34 pm     #  

"i just want to know if i have to work tomorrow! come on jr! let me know!"

In the city: a bit gnarly in the morning but tolerable in the afternoon. Put yourself on a two- to four-hour delay.

Cancellations & Delays: ... Wednesday ... upso - three-hour delay ...

It has been snowing and blowing for an hour or so.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 07:26:57 pm     #  

I live in east side near Oregon and for the last 10 minutes I can hear the sleet slam against my dining room windows. Guessing it's sleet never heard of snow making that ping ping sound.

posted by INeedCoffee on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:03:11 pm     #  

Yeah, we noticed some sleet here in West Toledo hitting our north windows at 7:20 p.m.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:25:15 pm     #  

Sleet in my Franklin Park neighborhood on top of the 1.5" or so of snow that fell since 4:30 pm. I had the snowblower out for a half hour to reduce the load tomorrow.

We had about four inches this morning, so I figure a total of about 5.5" so far.

posted by historymike on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:28:53 pm     #  

All snow here at the state line so far, strong winds from ENE gusting to about 25 so far.

posted by Linecrosser on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:54:33 pm     #  

People that are pointing out the lower snow totals, that really doesn't mean things are better. We are seeing a layer of warm air work in that is raising the chance of sleet and perhaps freezing rain. This will keep the snow totals down, but increase the ice accumulation which by all accounts is worse. The storm system is one of the more intense ones we've been in the country lately, so rating it based on localized variations really is not fair.

What we experienced here with the storm is that you can get a very tight gradient. Over a distance of just 100 miles we had places with 3-4 inches then an area of 12" or more then an area of 2 inches snow with 3 inches of sleet. Also the winds with this will make conditions very dangerous. We had areas that were low on the snow totals but winds over 40 mph still yielded drifts of nearly 2 feet or more.

So stop focusing on the exact total of precip, its going to vary over short distances, but be more concerned with the wind this storm will bring to you guys.

posted by JustaSooner on Feb 01, 2011 at 08:58:10 pm     #  

Lucas County went to Level 2 Snow Emergency. Come on Level 3!

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 01, 2011 at 09:09:21 pm     #  

Toledo Express Airport conditions at 8:42 p.m.:

  • weather: Light Ice Pellets and Blowing Snow
  • temp: 18 F
  • winds: E-NE 26 mph, gust to 34 mph
  • pressure: 29.93 in (Falling)

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 09:52:27 pm     #  

Warnings Map at WTOL

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:00:35 pm     #  

it's toasty outside!

posted by toledolen_ on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:10:40 pm     #  

ODOT Winter Reporting Locations - District 2

CountyReporting LocationSnow TodaySnow DepthCrews WorkingLast Updated
FUL FULTON COUNTY GARAGE 5 " 6.5 " 8 2/1/2011 8:10:33 PM
HEN HENRY COUNTY GARAGE 4 " 8 " 7 2/1/2011 7:25:54 PM
LUC LUCAS COUNTY GARAGE 3 " 7 " 12 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
OTT OTTAWA COUNTY GARAGE 4 " 7 " 10 2/1/2011 8:58:58 PM
SAN SANDUSKY COUNTY GARAGE4 " 8 " 10 2/1/2011 6:34:39 PM
SEN SENECA COUNTY GARAGE 5 " 10 " 9 2/1/2011 8:46:40 PM
WIL WILLIAMS COUNTY GARAGE5 " 8 " 8 2/1/2011 8:25:12 PM
WOO NORTHWOOD OUTPOST 4 " 5 " 14 2/1/2011 8:00:33 PM
WOO WOOD COUNTY GARAGE 3 " 7 " 15 2/1/2011 6:26:53 PM

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:22:47 pm     #  

The 7" reported by Lucas County is the exact same amount I just measured for the two-day total. Creepy.

posted by historymike on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:25:20 pm     #  

ODOT Winter Route Conditions - Toledo area

ConditionRouteReporting LocationUpdated
Moderate Snow/Ice US-20-ALucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice US-20 Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice US-23 Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice SR-578Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice US-24 Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice SR-64 Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice SR-2 Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice SR-51 Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice SR-184Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice IR-475Lucas County Garage 2/1/2011 8:13:41 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice IR-475Northwood Outpost 2/1/2011 8:00:33 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice IR-280Northwood Outpost 2/1/2011 8:00:33 PM
Moderate Snow/Ice IR-75 Northwood Outpost 2/1/2011 8:00:33 PM

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:35:56 pm     #  

Ohio Roads Snow Emergency Classifications

LEVEL 1 : Roadways are hazardous with blowing and drifting snow. Roads may also be icy. Motorists are urged to drive very cautiously.

LEVEL 2 : Roadways are hazardous with blowing and drifting snow. Roads may also be very icy. Only those who feel it is necessary to drive should be out on the roads. Contact your employer to see if you should report to work. Motorists should use extreme caution.

LEVEL 3 : All roadways are closed to non-emergency personnel. No one should be driving during these conditions unless it is absolutely necessary to travel or a personal emergency exists. All employees should contact their employer to see if they should report to work. Those traveling on the roads may subject themselves to arrest.


To view the state’s weather-related road closures and restrictions, visit the Ohio Department of Transportation’s traffic Web site at www.buckeyetraffic.org


Other ODOT - District 2 sites:

The traffic cameras show road conditions ranging from partly to completely snow-covered.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 10:51:31 pm     #  

At 10:00 p.m., it's wild out. The hardest I've seen it snow yet this evening. Bands of snow moving horizontally. Gusty winds. A lot of blowing snow. Very low visibility.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:07:28 pm     #  

Since my earlier post the snow (?) here is still a quasi snow/sleet. Can this be a good thing? It's not exactly freezing rain I dont see ice on things, but since it's not really snow it seems to be settling nicely so no real strong drifts (to heavy for the wind to move?). Eh hopeful wishing perhaps. Will see in the morning.

So how soon till we see "Survived Groundhog Day Blizzard 2011" shirts? ;) my candles are ready

posted by INeedCoffee on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:13:13 pm     #  

It's still snowing hard in West Toledo, but it feels like some freezing rain might be mixed in with it. No sleet. The snow has some crust on it. The sky is strangely bright right now from the lights reflecting off the precip.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:26:07 pm     #  

ice ice baby

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:32:55 pm     #  

I Just talked to my Cousin in Illinois in the Chicago suburbs and he said they are getting hammered right now (all snow). He said this wind is really bad and it's blowing the snow completely horizontal.

posted by lfrost2125 on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:36:05 pm     #  

Actually, it's hard to tell if it's snowing here. The snow is moving sideways to the west, but that could be snow that fell earlier, and it's now getting carried away by the strong winds.

The sky light changed dramatically at 10:38 p.m. back to a more normal darkness. It was amazingly bright for a while. Probably due to a different type of precip in the air, such as sleet.

The strongest wind gust occurred here at 10:44 p.m. I heard twigs/branches or something hitting the house. It was a wall of white passing by the south windows during that long, drawn-out wind gust. The towering, leafless oak trees are growling.

Another big wind gust at 10:55 p.m. I think we're getting freezing rain/drizzle now.

posted by jr on Feb 01, 2011 at 11:57:07 pm     #  

Precip is definitely falling here, but it's not snow now. It feels and sounds like tiny ice pellets.

Recent reports from the airports:

  • Toledo Metcalf - 10:53 p.m., Snow Freezing Fog, 19 F, Wind NE at 28 mph, Visibility: 0.50 mi.
  • Toledo Express - 10:52 p.m., Heavy Snow Freezing Fog and Windy, 18 °F, Wind Speed: E 28 G 46 MPH, Visibility: 0.50 mi.


This evening, Wunderground.com introduced a new version of their Web site.

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 12:19:29 am     #  

11:30 p.m. radar shows a break in the precip for us.

expand and animate!

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 12:31:35 am     #  

No precip at the moment, but the hellacious winds continue to batter our old oaks. We've heard a couple of mild thumps on the roof. The snow in the yards is peppered with twigs. I'm sooooo glad we spent the $800 to get the trees cleared of dead wood two years ago. Right now, It's strictly a hardhat area in this heavily treed neighborhood.

posted by holland on Feb 02, 2011 at 12:31:53 am     #  

It has been pretty nasty here in western Sylvania Twp. Alternating between snow and what I presume is sleet, from the sound of it hitting the windows. Steady, gusty winds.

posted by mom2 on Feb 02, 2011 at 12:54:00 am     #  

Excerpts from the most recent NWS forecast discussion:

Area forecast discussion
National Weather Service Cleveland Ohio
958 PM EST Tuesday Feb 1 2011

The wind should begin to slowly decrease across Northwest Ohio as the low passes just to the east before daybreak. I am concerned about dry air wrapping into Northwest Ohio which may limit the snow amounts but the dry air will also likely cause the lapse rates to steepen and bursts of snow and sleet should continue to redevelop overnight. We may not get the full 8 inches of snow in the forecast but should still easily make the 4 inch lower end of the forecast. Will not talk about the temperatures rising across Northwest Ohio although they will sneak up a couple of degrees.

Short term /6 am Wednesday morning through Thursday night/... the surface low will rapidly move off to the northeast on Wednesday morning. The dry slot will graze the area. Wrap around snow will affect the area tomorrow but most of the snow should be relatively light...an inch or less except 1 to 3 inches in the far north and the snowbelt. The precipitation should cut off quickly tomorrow afternoon and evening.


Translation, the bulk of the snow has fallen by 11:00 p.m. Tuesday night?? According to radar, it looks like we'll get a little more freezing rain/sleet. In the past 40 minutes or so, it seems the winds have decreased. I don't hear the big wind gusts anymore. And I don't see much blowing snow outside either, but that could be because of the sleet/drizzle a while ago. The snowiest and windiest period was between 9:00 and 11:00 p.m.

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 12:57:25 am     #  

ODOT Winter Reporting Locations - District 2

CountyReporting LocationSnow TodaySnow DepthCrews WorkingLast Updated
FUL FULTON COUNTY GARAGE 5 " 6.5 " 8 2/1/2011 10:00:02 PM
HEN HENRY COUNTY GARAGE 5 " 8 " 7 2/1/2011 11:12:00 PM
LUC LUCAS COUNTY GARAGE 4 " 8 " 12 2/1/2011 10:56:19 PM
OTT OTTAWA COUNTY GARAGE 4 " 7 " 10 2/1/2011 8:58:58 PM
SAN SANDUSKY COUNTY GARAGE5 " 9 " 10 2/1/2011 10:46:03 PM
SEN SENECA COUNTY GARAGE 5 " 10 " 9 2/1/2011 11:23:28 PM
WIL WILLIAMS COUNTY GARAGE6 " 9 " 8 2/1/2011 11:34:33 PM
WOO NORTHWOOD OUTPOST 4 " 5 " 14 2/1/2011 11:33:47 PM
WOO WOOD COUNTY GARAGE 5 " 9 " 15 2/1/2011 11:17:25 PM

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:09:08 am     #  

Just ran to the corner store because I was out of milk. The roads weren't bad at all.

posted by JJFad on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:27:27 am     #  

I thought I recognized you, JJFad. Some storm, huh?

This storm is wimpy. A few inches of snow followed by a little sleet. Big deal. I was promised a real blizzard here, and all I see is mild snow.

posted by madjack on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:48:13 am     #  

I've still got my pistol ready, though. Because you never know...

posted by madjack on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:48:39 am     #  

Just woken up by the sound of freezing rain pelting my house.

Let the dogs outside to go potty - I've never seen them run back to the door so fast after their business was done.

posted by mom2 on Feb 02, 2011 at 02:28:27 am     #  

My boyfriend and I just came back from a walk around the block. It was snowing lightly when we started out, and the wind wasn't bad. The last 50 yards or so, it started sleeting hard and the wind was just whipping. And then--lightning! Did anyone else see it? It was so cool! The thunder sounded so distorted, almost warped!

I was wondering if that's what I was hearing earlier tonight. I wouldn't have known for sure if we hadn't been outside to see the lightning flash.

I'm hearing the freezing rain that mom2 mentioned now. Glad we went out, but happy to be back inside again!

posted by valbee on Feb 02, 2011 at 02:38:15 am     #  

It doesn't look like a level 3 snow emergency out there. Channel 11 keeps shoving the camera into the face of ever driver they can fine.

Funny that they keep saying that the roads aren't bad at all...

Oh well, level 3 means I'm working from home today.

posted by SensorG on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:42:54 am     #  

Glad it wasn't as bad as predicted. I don't blame the weather forecasters. I'd rather be overprepared than underprepared. Also means fewer injuries and deaths, so I'm okay with just 6-8 inches.

posted by bikerdude on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:23:21 am     #  

My problem is that they blew the forecast so bad, people might not listen next time, causing more issues.

Jerry Anderson was a complete joke last night talking about how Stan Stachak was "batting a thousand" with his forecast. What a joke, Stachak was standing in front of a map talking about the sharp line around Tiffin where the freezing rain and sleet was, while I'm looking out my window at the sleet coming down.

Bah!

posted by SensorG on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:33:47 am     #  

I can't say what the main roads look like but I'm snowed in until I get my snowblower out. That snow is heavy as hell, it's going to take some work to clear. My dog is in heaven though.

posted by hunkytownsausage on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:43:40 am     #  

I can't see my street. If it weren't for my mailbox, I wouldn't be able to tell where my front yard ends and the street begins.

posted by mom2 on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:49:24 am     #  

My solution to fix my un- startable snow blower, to toss it into a pine tree didn’t work. Hand shoveling turned out to be my day’s workout. Now I feel better!

posted by Offshore on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:54:57 am     #  

This storm isnt much compared to 1978, but hats off to the Toledo city plowing crews.

I don't know about other areas of the city, but from UT heading downtown they have done a great job clearing the roads.

posted by 6th_Floor on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:01:34 am     #  

I don't believe it. No way we're getting 18+ inches of snow. This morning, the TV weather folks were all saying 6 to 12, and I'll bet it's closer to 6.

posted by Anniecski on Jan 31, 2011 at 09:51:48 am

Ahem

posted by Anniecski on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:12:21 am     #  

I don't think we're going to get 18+ inches either. However, to be fair, the forecast was for that volume of snow by Thursday, and its still Wednesday.

posted by mom2 on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:27:04 am     #  

"Oh well, level 3 means I'm working from home today."

My wife has been working this morning. But it's normal for her to start working at home around 5:00 to 6:00 a.m. before going to the office. Of course, no office today. But a client in another city wants something today, and the client does not give a damn about our little weather issue in Toledo. No excuses will be accepted. Yeah, if you're in the information processing business, and you have your work laptop at home, and you have electricity, an Internet connection, and a cell phone, then no day off from work because Level 3 closed the building. But that's fine. Beats the olden days when working at home meant lugging a terminal and a modem from work.

It does appear that we got around six inches of new accumulation since about 5:00 p.m. yesterday, but it's hard to tell for sure because of the blowing and drifting that occurred before Midnight. Some ice pellets fell before Midnight, but we had a significant period of sleet or ice pellets from around 1:00 to 3:00 a.m. It got noisy at times when the gusting winds drove the pellets into the windows. The ice pellet accumulation made shoveling heavy this morning. If it had been all snow, then we probably would have doubled the snowfall we got. The weight of the ice pellet accumulation, however, may cut down on the blowing snow. It's snowing nicely now.

I spent more time shoveling for wildlife than for humans. I cleared areas in the front yard for our mutt. I cleared areas in the backyard for the juncos and the squirrels. The bird feeders are busy this morning. Goldfinches and Pine Siskins crowd the thistle socks. The Red-breasted Nuthatch, a fast-moving sprite, hauls away sunflower oilers. I heard a Northern Cardinal sing briefly this morning. The first signs of the spring bird migration will begin in our area in two or three weeks with blackbirds, robins, and some raptors on the move. In early March at Irwin Prairie at dusk, you can watch the aerial flight of the American Woodcock and listen to the Northern Spring Peepers. The first butterfly seen in March is usually the Mourning Cloak. In early March, a tiny flower blooms in our front yard, and I don't know what it is. Anyway, despite being a little locked in today, Nature's Spring is not far off.

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:37:01 am     #   2 people liked this

Off-topic, but I can't tell you how nice it was to read your wildlife rundown, jr. thanks!

posted by luvtoledo on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:48:09 am     #   1 person liked this

(PS -- "Off-topic" = my remarks, not your wildlife rundown.)

posted by luvtoledo on Feb 02, 2011 at 10:49:17 am     #  

On one of the news stations this morning, they said that TPD is ticketing people today for driving during a Level 3. Just curious, does anybody on here know anybody who's ever gotten a ticket during a Level 3? I always thought it was a myth :)

posted by dell_diva on Feb 02, 2011 at 11:11:40 am     #   1 person liked this

Nope it's not a myth. Got a Ticket for just that in my younger years when my buddies and I thought it would be fun to go out and mess around in the snow.

It's not always that the roads are bad either. They sometimes go to a level 3 just to keep people and cars out of the way, so they can clean up the mess faster.

posted by lfrost2125 on Feb 02, 2011 at 11:45:45 am     #   1 person liked this

Forgot to add that we have almost 9 inches here. After today's snow we'll probably have 11 or 12 inches.

posted by lfrost2125 on Feb 02, 2011 at 11:47:17 am     #  

Friend of mine got stopped one time during a level 3. He was going to the grocery store. Cop told him to go home. Just a warning. I think its a judgement call by the police whether you get a ticket or not.

posted by bolt98 on Feb 02, 2011 at 11:57:22 am     #  

Level 2: Wood, Fulton, and Henry counties

Level 3: Lucas and Ottawa counties

Here are a few still photos from around 11:00 a.m. from the frequently updated ODOT road cams :

I-280 North Approach @ Veterans Glass City Skyway Bridge Looking South

I-475 @ SR-25 Looking North

I-475 @ Corey Road Looking West

SR-2 - Airport Highway @ Spring Meadows East Looking East

Central Avenue @ Percentum Road Looking West

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 12:15:11 pm     #   2 people liked this

I just ordered in Chinese, later tonight is pizza :)

We are having a movie marathon. Out in our area, it's nice atm. The road is plowed, the snow is pristine. All the trees are gently dusted like something out of a painting. Later on I might go for a walk or build a snow fort with the kids.

posted by OhioKimono on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:32:25 pm     #  

JR: I think your tiny flower is a crocus. Main Lady has some in her front yard, so I'll ask for a confirmation.

My brother got Mom a bird feeder for Christmas and she loaded it and put it up, along with some kind of thing called a thistle sock which also has bird feed in it. Thistle seeds, I guess. These little birds really flock around it; it has six perches and sometimes there's a waiting line.

Mom also put up some suet which the woodpeckers like. I've been able to identify three woodpeckers: Hairy, Downy and Red Headed. I guess there's a flicker that comes around as well.

Is there a good site that helps identify birds in the Sylvania area?

posted by madjack on Feb 02, 2011 at 01:35:49 pm     #   1 person liked this

Your little early flower does indeed look to be species crocus jr. They are smaller and more delicate than the hybird giant Dutch crocus. A carpet of these beauties under a leafless tree in late winter is a sight to behold. If you don't mow the foliage down, by the time the tree leafs out the crocus bulb leaves have gotten enough sun to feed the bulb for next year and the cycle repeats. They will spread nicely if they arent mowed too soon.

posted by holland on Feb 02, 2011 at 02:14:44 pm     #  

Just got a WTOL text alert that Lucas County is downgraded to Level 2.

posted by mom2 on Feb 02, 2011 at 02:21:10 pm     #  

We received about a foot over the two storms here in West Toledo - I was using a yardstick to meaure, but the drifting and blowing is making an accurate measurement sketchy.

posted by historymike on Feb 02, 2011 at 02:23:42 pm     #  

The wind has picked up in Maumee.

posted by Molsonator on Feb 02, 2011 at 03:04:50 pm     #  

I feel gypped.

posted by SensorG on Feb 02, 2011 at 03:10:01 pm     #  

Having just come in from digging out my car, I can safely say that while this isn't the worst storm I've ever experienced, it's the worst storm I've experienced in the 7+ years I've been in my house. I have run out of places to put the snow and I still don't have it as clear as I'd like it. The sunshine that was here a little while ago was helpful in getting the hill at the end of my driveway down to pavement, but I could use a little more!

posted by valbee on Feb 02, 2011 at 03:16:51 pm     #  

A plow went down my street right after midnight Wednesday morning. I was shocked, I tell you.

posted by GuestZero on Feb 02, 2011 at 03:40:49 pm     #  

Yeah, the plows hit my street quite early too, GZ. Thankfully I have a snowblower (my wife surprised me with one this year) so digging out my driveway and those of my two elderly neighbors was much easier. Still, even the snowblower had some trouble with the mountains at the end of the driveway from the plow truck discharge.

posted by historymike on Feb 02, 2011 at 03:43:03 pm     #  

Pic from Chicago

Source: http://www.wgntv.com/weather/chibrknews-lake-shore-drive-closed-due-to-blizzard-20110201,0,1675125.story

posted by INeedCoffee on Feb 02, 2011 at 04:24:08 pm     #  

^^^Now that's a Level 3 emergency! Maybe a Level 7!

posted by oldhometown on Feb 02, 2011 at 04:50:18 pm     #   1 person liked this

I hear that Chicago got two feet of snow!

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_KxT3bZCpsqw/TQVX1dPKloI/AAAAAAAAWuY/e-rFiGH0M3Y/s1600/two_feet_of_snow.jpg

posted by SensorG on Feb 02, 2011 at 04:55:04 pm     #   1 person liked this

Just went out to shovel - that stuff is HEAVY!!!

posted by Ryan on Feb 02, 2011 at 06:55:40 pm     #   1 person liked this

From my keyboard to Gods ears. Two guys just came by to ask if I wanted my driveway shoveled!!!

posted by Ryan on Feb 02, 2011 at 07:23:15 pm     #  

"My problem is that they blew the forecast so bad, people might not listen next time, causing more issues."

With the photo INeedCoffee posted above, I don't think they listened this time in Chicago.

Maybe the lack of warning is to blame. The public only had 48 to 72 hours advance notice with this storm. The National Weather Service needs to improve its technology.

Or maybe the Chicago snow lurked behind a big tree, and it ambushed the motorists. The drivers never saw it coming.

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 07:33:07 pm     #  

Or JR, this was the 10th "big one" of the season and the residence tuned out...

posted by SensorG on Feb 02, 2011 at 07:36:25 pm     #  

Agreed with Ryan that this was some heavy-arse snow. Even with a snowblower it took quite a few hours to clear several driveways, and the areas where the plows buried the driveways were a real workout.

posted by historymike on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:27:40 pm     #  

Chicago people are their own special kind of stupid. But then, without them we wouldn't need to get the National Guard involved, and emergency vehicles could go to real emergencies.

posted by madjack on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:29:31 pm     #  

There was a lot of snow, but not "heavy" and wet. It was pretty much powder, just plenty of it. I couldn't get it to stick together to make a snowball.

posted by hockeyfan on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:33:16 pm     #  

I think we all got something different because in Point Place my driveway was only maybe 5 inches deep, but very heavy. No powder around these parts, can make ice balls galore though.

posted by Ryan on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:56:28 pm     #  

Must be location related because I'm in west toledo and it was mostly a powder like snow. I wouldn't want to see another snowfall like this though.

posted by hockeyfan on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:57:31 pm     #  

"Always remember that a true weather-emergency kits contains a loaded pistol, recently cleaned and ready to grab, cock and fire.

! posted by GuestZero on Jan 31, 2011 at 11:41:08 pm # + "

The only time I ever had someone try to pull my door open,(twice, actually), was in the Winter of 1978. The streets were choked with "walkers", and I wasn't going to become one of them. Thankfully my 4wd left 'em nice and frosty, and I didn't have to get more serious than that.

posted by Wulf on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:58:56 pm     #   1 person liked this

^^^^^^^

Yep, same here in South Toledo. Not very deep, but heavy as hell. Clearing the drivelway with a shovel was a real pain. My shoulders are going to be killing tomorrow. If I would have known how heavy it was, I would have just given the guy plowing the neighbors' driveway $20 and been done with it.

posted by Ace_Face on Feb 02, 2011 at 08:59:49 pm     #  

I guess it depends on where it fell, because ours was definitely heavy, wet snow. I had no problem making snowballs either. I'm still kicking myself for not making a snowman earlier when the temperature wasn't too bad yet.

Did you have sleet last night, hockeyfan? Maybe that was the difference. We had a LOT of sleet and a little freezing rain at about 2 a.m.

posted by valbee on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:03:46 pm     #  

I think it was a heavy "snow" not because of a warm temperature but because of the significant ice pellet accumulation that fell after Midnight, which weighted down the fluffy snow that fell before Midnight. The tiny ice pellets lowered our total snowfall, and it kept ice from accumulating on wires and trees.

posted by jr on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:14:05 pm     #  

We had major sleet from at least 8 on. You could here it from inside it was so loud.

posted by Ryan on Feb 02, 2011 at 09:43:48 pm     #  

I think we had a little sleet. There was a loud "crunch" walking in the snow, but I didn't find it heavy like the really wet snow we had last year.
As the posts show, there was a wide range of snow types in just this area alone. Heavy, wet snow just is brutal to shovel and move, no matter how far.

posted by hockeyfan on Feb 02, 2011 at 11:45:15 pm     #  

Odd how much variation there apparently was in relatively short distances. I'm in West Toledo, and when I was digging out, I noticed the cars had very little ice on them, just a fine coating on the side facing west.

posted by JeepMaker on Feb 03, 2011 at 10:19:46 am     #  

Ugh, the snow and slush in our driveway yesterday was so heavy that we broke our shovel. Broke it!

If anyone's out shopping in South Toledo today and can verify a place that's got snow shovels in stock, I'd love the heads-up.

posted by jmleong on Feb 03, 2011 at 12:07:01 pm     #  

I think we've had more snow today than we got during the "blizzard" a couple of days ago. Of course this is much, much lighter...

posted by SensorG on Feb 05, 2011 at 05:25:08 pm     #  

This is too much snow for me. I think we're going to limp toward spring this year because we're going to get a lot more snow than usual.I am ready for spring. I can't wait to start my garden. I'm already ordering stuff from the Internet. If you don't get your orders in by February on some vegetables that are hard to find locally (which I missed out on last year), you're screwed.

posted by bikerdude on Feb 05, 2011 at 06:46:30 pm     #  

Me too, bikerdude! We ordered some seeds a few weeks ago for scarlet runner beans and cauliflower. My boyfriend has started plotting our boxes on graph paper and now we're deciding what we want to put where. Anything to take my mind off the fact that I can barely get into my driveway right now.

posted by valbee on Feb 05, 2011 at 07:49:59 pm     #  

I went outside to shovel at 5:30 p.m., and I measured six inches of new snow on the hood of my car and on the front sidewalks that were clear before Saturday. Like SensorG said, the snow is way lighter than the glacier from mid-week. No wind here in the city, so the fluffy snow accumulated well on just about everything. The snow looked nice coming down, and it looks nice now piled around. It's great when not driving in it. Our total snow depth is probably around 16 inches.

The Saturday snow began around 9:30 a.m. The Saturday morning National Weather Service forecast called for 2 to 3 inches of snow. By mid-day, the NWS issued a Winter Weather Advisory until 8:00 p.m., and they upped the snowfall prediction to 3 to 5 inches. We had nearly four inches by 2:00 p.m., and it continued to snow hard for much of the afternoon until it finally became very light snow after 5:00 p.m.

posted by jr on Feb 05, 2011 at 08:28:11 pm     #  

I'm in Sylvania Township, and I make it an additional six inches on the ground.

Note that the weather nitwit predicted one to three...

posted by madjack on Feb 05, 2011 at 08:58:03 pm     #  

And... my brand new snowblower decided to give up the ghost. I think the carburetor is farked somehow, and after 90 minutes of banging my knuckles tearing apart the engine, I decided to stop cussing and grab the shovel. Six inches of new snow was my estimate, too.

posted by historymike on Feb 05, 2011 at 09:17:17 pm     #  

We are seriously running out of places to put snow. (Yes, we replaced our shovel.)

Some of the piles alongside our driveway are nearly as tall as me. Our poor foster dog keeps getting his tie-out wrapped around them.

I hear more is on the way, too. :(

posted by jmleong on Feb 06, 2011 at 09:47:23 am     #  

Nooooooooooooooooooo! Try pottying a puppy with 2-1/2 inch legs! Don't think we're cruel. She actually loves being outside, even in the snow. She's just little in size, not in attitude, and we keep her trips outside very short.

We definitely got six inches of new stuff in our driveway. How DOES the weather station at the airport continually get snowfall readings so out of sync with what most people actually experience?

posted by holland on Feb 06, 2011 at 11:31:09 am     #  

"How DOES the weather station at the airport continually get snowfall readings so out of sync with what most people actually experience?"

Because they probably need to upgrade their stuff out there and they're not in as close to the lake as Toledo.

posted by anonymouscoward on Feb 06, 2011 at 12:28:55 pm     #  

That's probably true about equipment. I'm 5 miles from the airport due east down Airport Highway. In the thirty plus years I've lived here the precip I measure is almost never in sync with the Airport's weather station readings. I swear their's is under an awning or against the side of a bulding or something.

posted by holland on Feb 06, 2011 at 12:51:08 pm     #  

Maybe I'm just getting old, but this is the worst winter I remember since the brutal ones of late 70's--'77/'78 in particular. And back then I wasn't a homeowner and had apt. complex people do all the cleanup...

posted by McCaskey on Feb 06, 2011 at 03:42:49 pm     #  

"And... my brand new snowblower decided to give up the ghost. I think the carburetor is farked somehow, and after 90 minutes of banging my knuckles tearing apart the engine, I decided to stop cussing and grab the shovel."

Man, that sucks, Historymike. Nothing is more frustrating that trying to start those suckers and they won't start. I'd return it. What brand is it, if you don't mind me asking? I've sworn off MTD's. I've had them all my life, and they just break down more than I'm comfortable with. Good luck.

posted by bikerdude on Feb 06, 2011 at 06:59:46 pm     #  

I've had to bring up old skills in snow clearing, like the snowplow push, the energy-conserving sidethrow, and of course snowpile management in order to get those mounds high without collapsing.

I still feel like I've gone a few rounds with Tyson, however. I've been finding myself forced to shovel out parking spaces in the street when I go visiting friends. Pain that's days-old crawls across my shoulders and down my ribcage. Waaaah!

posted by GuestZero on Feb 07, 2011 at 02:35:15 am     #  

"this is the worst winter I remember since the brutal ones of late 70's--'77/'78 in particular."

It reminds me of that storm as well, especially the steep snow banks. I don't know if I can find a place in my yard to put the snow if we have another storm.

posted by gemini on Feb 08, 2011 at 08:20:41 pm     #  

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