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Another downtown watering hole bites the dust...Easy Street Bar.

I was just told by one of their employees that tonight is their last night.

Someone listening to some of you guys around here would be fooled into believing the downtown Toledo bar scene was part of a thriving metropolis.

There still are a few more downtown watering holes that are circling the bowl.

Easy come, easy go.

Not to worry, the Chinese are here checkbook in hand.

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When is Plate One going to open? Last year Sandy said she was hoping to open in Late August or early September (2016). Perhaps she meant August of 17:) Space doesn't look like it is close to being done.

posted by classylady on Jun 17, 2017 at 11:22:39 pm     #  

classylady posted at 11:22:39 PM on Jun 17, 2017:

When is Plate One going to open? Last year Sandy said she was hoping to open in Late August or early September (2016). Perhaps she meant August of 17:) Space doesn't look like it is close to being done.

This seems like it really bothers you.

posted by justread on Jun 18, 2017 at 05:49:09 am     #   1 person liked this

Doesn't really "bother" me. But it does make one wonder why a place that was suppose to have opened almost a year ago still isn't close to being open and isn't doing much work on the space.

That spot used to be a coffee house and Biggby was able to transform their new spot into a coffee house in about a month through a lot of hard work.

I hope she succeeds and I love to buy local, but if local merchants want us to buy local they have to be open.

posted by classylady on Jun 19, 2017 at 09:33:58 am     #  

Any worrd here on Cilantro on Huron? A girl in my office and myself gave them another try Thursday. Even though they've been open a month and a half still no liquor license. Not a big issue seeing this was lunch but when I go out for Mexican at night time I want a rita and the boyfriend wants a Corona. The food was good but service was awful. We were about ready to walk out and then our food finally arrived. No charge for chips and salsa and not sure if it was because it took so long for the food to come out or if they realized it was a mistake charging for them.

I see they aren't list a participant on the DORA site

posted by classylady on Jun 19, 2017 at 10:40:31 am     #  

I was there for lunch last week with a buddy, and we weren't charged for the chips and salsa either. I had tacos, which were very good. He had some kind of burrito, which was absolutely massive, and he said he would get it again. Service was prompt, but we were also one of only three tables in there at noon on a Thursday.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 19, 2017 at 10:47:46 am     #  

Toledoans must have focked up tastes. How can they not keep a White Castle, Skyline Chili or Fazoli's in business? Oh, that's right, no alcohol at those places. Keep on boozing it up Jeepsters!

posted by kritter on Jun 21, 2017 at 01:57:07 am     #  

Why you hate Zenobia Shriner tiny cars, bro?

posted by justread on Jun 21, 2017 at 05:41:05 am     #   3 people liked this

It's not the cars it's the tasseled hats that are disturbing.

posted by Mariner on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:10:28 am     #  

kritter posted at 01:57:07 AM on Jun 21, 2017:

Toledoans must have focked up tastes. How can they not keep a White Castle, Skyline Chili or Fazoli's in business? Oh, that's right, no alcohol at those places. Keep on boozing it up Jeepsters!

Am I reading that right? You are blaming Toledoans bad culinary tastes for the failures of white Castle, Fazoli's and Skyline? Some may look at those failures as a sign of discretion. On an unrelated note- do you frequent many fast food establishments that offer a gin & tonic?

posted by ahmahler on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:42:33 am     #   2 people liked this

Don't feed the troll. Nature ran its course and resolved the issue.

posted by jr on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:47:07 am     #   7 people liked this

I attended the Toledo Warehouse District Meeting last night and am very impressed with the organization and how efficiently they operate.

Unlike the downtown planning meetings they had last year where they paid a lot of money to a Cleveland firm, the plans they talked about last night have a possibility of actually happening and make sense.

I like how they are trying to make the district more pedestrian and bike friendly and trying to add more residential in the TWD. I wish they would add more condo's for sale instead of rental units though.

The timeline was very interesting, they have accomplished a lot in just 15 years.

posted by classylady on Jun 21, 2017 at 01:13:36 pm     #   1 person liked this

Thank you Junior, that was one unhappy kritter.

posted by OldTimer on Jun 21, 2017 at 01:32:32 pm     #   1 person liked this

I agree with him about Skyline. Used to frequent the one at Glendale and Byrne in the late 80s/early 90s. I love that stuff. Try to get it when I'm in Columbus.

posted by MemyselfandI on Jun 21, 2017 at 04:28:06 pm     #  

classylady posted at 01:13:36 PM on Jun 21, 2017:

I attended the Toledo Warehouse District Meeting last night and am very impressed with the organization and how efficiently they operate.

Unlike the downtown planning meetings they had last year where they paid a lot of money to a Cleveland firm, the plans they talked about last night have a possibility of actually happening and make sense.

I like how they are trying to make the district more pedestrian and bike friendly and trying to add more residential in the TWD. I wish they would add more condo's for sale instead of rental units though.

The timeline was very interesting, they have accomplished a lot in just 15 years.

What plans did they discuss exactly?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jun 21, 2017 at 04:30:00 pm     #  

I also agree about Skyline. I liked White Castle for late night munchies.

Don't miss Fazoli's. Didn't they close a lot of stores in other cities as well? When they first opened in the 90's I liked their breadsticks and some of their entrees but thought it went downhill fast.

Del Taco is the fast food chain I miss.

posted by classylady on Jun 21, 2017 at 04:34:01 pm     #  

On an unrelated note- do you frequent many fast food establishments that offer a gin & tonic?

Great question. I am currently looking for one of these. With a drive through. Let me know.

posted by justread on Jun 21, 2017 at 04:38:00 pm     #  

I wish we would get a Culver's. Every time I drive to Lima I have to stop there.

For a fast food establishment with G&T or a drive thru you'll have to go to the Big Easy. I've seen adult drinks at some fast food places there and also drive through daquri huts.

posted by classylady on Jun 21, 2017 at 04:40:16 pm     #  

I've tried to love Culver's. Anytime I drive to Minneapolis I stop by and I am always greased out.

posted by upso on Jun 21, 2017 at 05:57:21 pm     #   1 person liked this

justread posted at 04:38:00 PM on Jun 21, 2017:

On an unrelated note- do you frequent many fast food establishments that offer a gin & tonic?

Great question. I am currently looking for one of these. With a drive through. Let me know.

Maybe Manhattans will add a drive up window?

posted by ahmahler on Jun 21, 2017 at 07:54:44 pm     #  

Murray's To Go will have a walk up window.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 21, 2017 at 08:08:28 pm     #  

Johio83 posted at 08:08:28 PM on Jun 21, 2017:

Murray's To Go will have a walk up window.

There you go justread-you can leave your car running

posted by ahmahler on Jun 21, 2017 at 08:55:57 pm     #   1 person liked this

In 'n out is the fast food chain I'd love to see in Toledo

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 21, 2017 at 10:25:27 pm     #  

In 'n out is the fast food chain I'd love to see in Toledo

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 21, 2017 at 10:25:28 pm     #  

ckbeats21 posted at 04:30:00 PM on Jun 21, 2017:
classylady posted at 01:13:36 PM on Jun 21, 2017:

I attended the Toledo Warehouse District Meeting last night and am very impressed with the organization and how efficiently they operate.

Unlike the downtown planning meetings they had last year where they paid a lot of money to a Cleveland firm, the plans they talked about last night have a possibility of actually happening and make sense.

I like how they are trying to make the district more pedestrian and bike friendly and trying to add more residential in the TWD. I wish they would add more condo's for sale instead of rental units though.

The timeline was very interesting, they have accomplished a lot in just 15 years.

What plans did they discuss exactly?

http://www.toledoblade.com/Real-Estate/2017/06/24/Warehouse-District-makes-5-year-plan.html

posted by upso on Jun 24, 2017 at 10:06:30 am     #  

I finally made it down to Carlos Poco Loco tonight, and I see what everyone is talking about it. The food was really, really good. I had a tamale and a street taco with pork carnitas. Delicious. That and a glass of sangria, really good. Definitely will be going back, I really want to try the grilled stuffed pineapple next time.

posted by foodie88 on Jun 24, 2017 at 09:11:11 pm     #  

foodie88... that is exactly what i order there... with the rice and beans. as the metabolism continues to slow, portion control is becoming my watchword :-))... some of the entrees they have are ginormous

posted by enjoyeverysandwich on Jun 25, 2017 at 10:56:27 pm     #  

Children's discovery center closed a few weeks ago. Someone in my building was telling me about it and she know has to get up earlier to drop them off in Maumee. She said they were the only quality day care center downtown. Surprising they would close with Promedica being so near to opening up downtown.

posted by classylady on Jun 27, 2017 at 04:11:50 pm     #  

The classes haven't been full for along time and guess what else comes when ProMedica finally arrives? Higher rent. It won't be the last place to close.

posted by westsidebob on Jun 28, 2017 at 08:39:41 am     #  

On the brighter side, I am glad this thread can finally transition away from tacos.

posted by westsidebob on Jun 28, 2017 at 08:40:18 am     #  

New lofts coming in next to Bartley

http://www.13abc.com/content/news/Developer-plans-75-unit-lofts-downtown-431208383.html

posted by ckbeats21 on Jun 28, 2017 at 09:10:32 am     #  

The article doesn't say. Is that still being done by the Peruvian guy?

posted by justread on Jun 28, 2017 at 10:33:58 am     #  

Yup, Arte Express is the firm's name.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 28, 2017 at 11:52:51 am     #  

The blade is reporting the state just awarded tax historic tax credits for the renovation of 139 S Huron into apartment and retail. It's the old Al Peaks

posted by In_vin_veritas on Jun 28, 2017 at 11:54:52 am     #  

In_vin_veritas posted at 11:54:52 AM on Jun 28, 2017:

The blade is reporting the state just awarded tax historic tax credits for the renovation of 139 S Huron into apartment and retail. It's the old Al Peaks

Link?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jun 28, 2017 at 12:30:28 pm     #  

http://www.toledoblade.com/local/2017/06/28/State-approves-tax-credits-for-Metzger-Building-in-Toledo-Warehouse-District.html

5 Apartments
1st Floor Resturants
3 million dollar project to begin soon now that they were awarded $610,000 in tax credits.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 28, 2017 at 12:47:51 pm     #  

IBC is the same people who bought the Erie Street Market.

....For $600,000.

posted by justread on Jun 28, 2017 at 12:51:36 pm     #  

Didn't someone by the Commerce Paper Building or is that the same building we are talking about?

posted by Molsonator on Jun 28, 2017 at 01:27:02 pm     #  

We need a lot more residential downtown. I wish we would concentrate more on owned condos than rental units. I know two couples in their 30's that would love to live downtown but they want to own not rent.

posted by classylady on Jun 28, 2017 at 01:31:18 pm     #  

Children's Discovery owns the space that is why I'm surprised they closed. Maybe they're hoping ProMedica will go in the day care business and buy it, they are buying everything else.

posted by classylady on Jun 28, 2017 at 01:40:59 pm     #  

Molsonator posted at 01:27:02 PM on Jun 28, 2017:

Didn't someone by the Commerce Paper Building or is that the same building we are talking about?

Different projects and investors. The commerce paper building was just approved to proceed by city council yesterday. No timetable for construction to begin though.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 28, 2017 at 01:49:29 pm     #  

Molsonator posted at 01:27:02 PM on Jun 28, 2017:

Didn't someone by the Commerce Paper Building or is that the same building we are talking about?

That's the Fernando Palazuelo project with 75 units referenced in ckbeats post above. We kind of hit on both projects.

posted by justread on Jun 28, 2017 at 02:04:27 pm     #  

The good news is, we can't keep the developments straight. :)

posted by justread on Jun 28, 2017 at 02:04:50 pm     #   1 person liked this

I agree about needing more real estate downtown that people own. I have a friend that wants to move downtown but there are very few properties that are condos and they are all occupied. I was lucky to get my place when I did. But I don't blame the developers for doing rentals instead if there is a waiting list and they know they are occupied. I just hope they keep the rentals market rate.

posted by jamesteroh on Jun 29, 2017 at 09:40:14 am     #  

As far as tax credit projects go, the state of Ohio requires that the developer retain full ownership of all property for a minimum of five years. That's part of the reason why a lot of the projects go the rental and not condo route.

posted by Johio83 on Jun 29, 2017 at 10:47:56 am     #  

It was racist and disgusting for the Chief Kral to suspend DORA only for the Easter fight at Huntington. Fortunately, enough people voiced their disapproval and the decision was reversed.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jun 29, 2017 at 09:08:57 pm     #   1 person liked this

I don't know if it was actually racist, but it sure felt like it. Whether it was aimed at a specific race, it was certainly prejudice in the true sense of the word. "Pre-conceived opinion that is not based on reason." So, calling him prejudice is accurate and true. But whatever group of Toledo citizens that he fears and disdains, it could be fight fans, not black people.

It could be as simple as having the word "fight" in the description of the event. (Ermegerd, violence!)

Dumb either way. And "prejudice" as the day is long.

Another score for public relations, Chief.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 06:15:43 am     #   2 people liked this

Sorry boys haveta disagree. In the first place there were disturbances following the last fight in Feb. That's customary at these events cuz they get the fans all charged up and in the mood for fistacuffs. Add booze and you have an expanded prob. The Chief's main job is to keep the peace. That's what he was setting out to do...not insult anyone or make any biased statements. Was a bit surprised when the restriction was rescinded until I saw the weather forecast. If people want to walk around with a drink outside Friday night terrific because the beverage is going to get watered down quickly. It's helpful to have a weather eye in public policy decisions. It does make a significant difference. I for one am glad we have a Chief with a brain between his ears.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 06:52:21 am     #   1 person liked this

Mariner posted at 06:52:21 AM on Jun 30, 2017:

Sorry boys haveta disagree. In the first place there were disturbances following the last fight in Feb. That's customary at these events cuz they get the fans all charged up and in the mood for fistacuffs. Add booze and you have an expanded prob. The Chief's main job is to keep the peace. That's what he was setting out to do...not insult anyone or make any biased statements. Was a bit surprised when the restriction was rescinded until I saw the weather forecast. If people want to walk around with a drink outside Friday night terrific because the beverage is going to get watered down quickly. It's helpful to have a weather eye in public policy decisions. It does make a significant difference. I for one am glad we have a Chief with a brain between his ears.

Respectfully: When you work hard for years to get the momentum going in your downtown that you wanted to have, and the result is that you have multiple events and multiple crowds, the suspension of individual rights is a sign of a lack of planning, not of the presence of wisdom in policing. If our town can't handle the DORA, we all go down together. People fight in New Orleans too. Their police department has a serious freaking handle on it. Are they unwise?

Sorry you have to actually police, boys. Camera time is over.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:18:22 am     #   3 people liked this

Totally agreed about the absurdity of suspending the DORA because an event is happening. Wasn't this exactly the point of it?

posted by Johio83 on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:26:26 am     #   3 people liked this

Have been to New Orleans for several Mardi Gras and the comparison just does not fit. The US Navy would bring in ships for the events and along with that big beefy trained shore patrol monitoring the streets so Their boys would not jam up but it also augmented the local police effort who use horses and a whole bunch of outlying police units from the area to keep it calm. Even with our smaller size, County Deputy Sheriffs, other local police organizations are in for an extra payday. That would happen with most crowd control unless you're talking about the very fine guests we have had from the Jehova Witnesses each summer for years and a nicer group you will find nowhere.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:40:28 am     #   1 person liked this

So you are saying we don't need the Navy to do this. Good.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:41:57 am     #   1 person liked this

We could bring in Coast Guard Station Toledo but they are all trainees. No joy.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:47:26 am     #  

I thought DORA was going to be cancelled because of the Mud Hens game , you know those rowdy baseball hooligans can cause a lot of trouble

posted by Hoops on Jun 30, 2017 at 08:51:39 am     #   1 person liked this

I guess this is the threat too great for our combined safety forces to overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsUGvlDkjpg

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 10:06:00 am     #  

There will be fights tonight, with or without "DORA." That's the territory that comes with boxing/mma matches. I have been to vegas for two Mayweather fights - each time I have seen fights in the streets following.

Cancelling DORA wasn't the answer and I am glad to see it reversed. More security is needed no matter what, but banning drinking out of red solo cup wasn't going to keep the peace.

I will be at the fight tonight and it will be a blast, however, it is not a family event. Just the way it is and it has nothing to do with race as stated above by 6th floor. Its the clientele. A lot of drunk, rowdy, 20-40 year old males.

As you can see in the video posted by Justread - bunch of white dudes trying to be boxers.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jun 30, 2017 at 10:39:08 am     #   1 person liked this

justread posted at 10:06:00 AM on Jun 30, 2017:

I guess this is the threat too great for our combined safety forces to overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsUGvlDkjpg

you can take the Sports Arena out of the city, but you can't take the Sports Arena out of the people.

posted by ahmahler on Jun 30, 2017 at 11:21:50 am     #   2 people liked this

ahmahler posted at 11:21:50 AM on Jun 30, 2017:
justread posted at 10:06:00 AM on Jun 30, 2017:

I guess this is the threat too great for our combined safety forces to overcome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsUGvlDkjpg

you can take the Sports Arena out of the city, but you can't take the Sports Arena out of the people.

Funny. I almost asked if it was a Goaldiggers game. :)

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 11:24:13 am     #   4 people liked this

I only know I don't wanna be where the popcorn flies. Would rather be eating it.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 11:26:42 am     #  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0&list=RDKnnHprUGKF0#t=71

Shakira said it: No Fighting!

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 12:36:14 pm     #  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnnHprUGKF0

here's from the start

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 12:38:52 pm     #  

The chief was neither racist nor completely off base in his decision to suspend the DORA. His job is to keep the peace. Removing street drinking from a fight fueled atmosphere is pre-emptive policing. It may have been over reaching in that he didn't have the authority to do so. As a proponent of the DORA I am glad it was reinstated. This weekend will be a test. Hopefully people there for the fight behave and don't foul things up for peaceable bar hoppers.

posted by mixman on Jun 30, 2017 at 12:48:26 pm     #   1 person liked this

I'm too cheap to drink in bars, am too suburban snobbish to go downtown and in general, just not very smart, so can someone explain to me exactly what DORA is? The way I understand it, there is a designated zone that you can walk around with open containers purchased from bars within that zone?

Bars will still be open and alcohol available, so how much more risk does DORA present?

Type slow, I'm a dummy ☺

posted by JoeyGee on Jun 30, 2017 at 01:07:24 pm     #  

mixman posted at 12:48:26 PM on Jun 30, 2017:

The chief was neither racist nor completely off base in his decision to suspend the DORA. His job is to keep the peace. Removing street drinking from a fight fueled atmosphere is pre-emptive policing. It may have been over reaching in that he didn't have the authority to do so. As a proponent of the DORA I am glad it was reinstated. This weekend will be a test. Hopefully people there for the fight behave and don't foul things up for peaceable bar hoppers.

Anybody who didn't anticipate the resources the DORA would make necessary to operate smoothly and achieve the intended outcomes should work much farther from public policy. The whole idea of opening and closing the DORA based on subjective data related to a wide variety of potential events and visitors is unsustainable and will lead to more problems. If we can have a DORA, we can have a full-time DORA. If we don't have the resources to support the DORA, this is a hell of a time to decide that.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 01:18:02 pm     #   1 person liked this

Well after all, it is for the children.

posted by Mariner on Jun 30, 2017 at 01:22:51 pm     #  

That's a good point. So they didn't really anticipate the staff needed for an event like this. I'd say give them a break. The people in charge are new to this ballgame, too. It's a learning experience for everybody. As long as it's well patrolled and people don't get stupid, things should be ok.

If a person is curious and feeling a little brave, a good spot for crowd watching might be Downtown Johnny's balcony across the street from the Huntington Center. It's a small balcony so get there early for the best seats.

posted by mixman on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:28:48 pm     #  

So they didn't really anticipate the staff needed for an event like this. I'd say give them a break.

I wasn't going to take it any farther than here, so I doubt they will ever know we had this talk.

But this was not a hard one to anticipate. And these are the emergency management people. I'm not going to protest. But damn, man. Let's project some confidence while we dial it in, shall we?

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:42:09 pm     #  

btw... have fun, be safe.

posted by justread on Jun 30, 2017 at 03:44:02 pm     #  

I'm too cheap to drink in bars, am too suburban snobbish to go downtown and in general, just not very smart, so can someone explain to me exactly what DORA is? The way I understand it, there is a designated zone that you can walk around with open containers purchased from bars within that zone?

Bars will still be open and alcohol available, so how much more risk does DORA present?

Type slow, I'm a dummy ☺

Any number of rejoinders come to mind, but charitably speaking, you can't be too much of a dummy because I don't see you on SwampBubbles. And yeah, that's a deliberate shot at the SB users with IQs a full ten points over their belt size.

Here's a link for you: Downtown Outdoor Refreshment Area

From the article:
DORA (Downtown Outdoor Refreshment Area)

The area bounded by Summit, Adams, Lafayette, and Erie streets comprises the Downtown Outdoor Refreshment Area (DORA). Cups are sold in the DORA between noon and midnight daily.

Adams St. Outdoor Refreshment Area

The Adams St. Outdoor Refreshment Area exists along Adams Street between 11th St. and 21st St. Cups are sold 5pm-1am Monday through Friday and 12pm-1am on weekends.

Note that there's a real difference here, and the two do not go hand in hand.

If the local government had its collective head screwed on straight (even close enough for government work), they would take an extended vacation into two areas: Bourbon Street in The Big Easy, and Beale Street in Memphis. Look at what's going on, observe the police presence, go down to Bourbon on Fat Tuesday and observe the crowds.

Instead of making a bunch of rules no one wants, join the two areas and make every night Saturday night. Eventually a couple cheap hotels will get developed, and additional cops will be added. But that will be okay, because the liquor sales will drive up tax revenue... which the city will misplace until the next levy fails. Or something.

Forget the cups, cup tax, stupid rules. People drink. Get used to it.

posted by madjack on Jun 30, 2017 at 04:44:36 pm     #   1 person liked this

Is Cilantros closed at dinner time on weekends now? Our neighbors walked over there around 7ish for dinner and said they were closed. They also couldn't find any hours posted. Hopefully they aren't going to be like Veritas was and just close up early whenever they feel like it.

I don't know how they are surviving with no liquor license. A good margarita or Corona is a must have for a lot of people that go to Mexican Restaurants for dinner and not to mention the money they are losing out from people that would stop in for a before or after appetizer and cocktail. A few places have failed there with a liquor license and full menu and stayed opened late and I can't imagine he would have a big enough lunch business to make a profit in that location.

posted by classylady on Jul 07, 2017 at 11:51:10 pm     #  

According to their webpage Cilatnro's is open until 10 on Friday and Saturday's, 3 during the week and closed Sunday so they really cut back on their hours. When they first opened they were going to be open until 4 a.m. on weekends at least then it dropped to 2 before they even opened and then 10 and now they are closed Sunday's and only open until 10 on Friday and Saturday.

According to their facebook page they are going to have their liquor license "soon". Soon could mean over another year by some businesses standards:) They've been open over two months and I think a liquor license is something a business of that type should have before they even open.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 08, 2017 at 04:19:49 pm     #  

Cilantros will be squeezing their hours until they reach the optimal level...at the food truck. The 4am weekend hours were as laughable as the 7am weekday opening hours.

posted by 6th_Floor on Jul 09, 2017 at 10:36:48 am     #  

A friend and I decided to give Cilantros another chance last night and they were open around 7:30 P.M. but the place was dead and they may as well have closed early but the Hens weren't at home and not much was going on downtown.

Still no liquor license so the only thing you can drink is pop. There was only one couple in there eating and while we were eating two ladies came in and left when they found out they ordered margirittas to start out with and were told they had no liquor license and another couple came in just before we left.

Service was really good and the only employee waiting tables was the bartender but she only had two tables to wait on. We were given chip and salsa without asking for them and at no charge (they really got slammed in their reviews for charging $3.50 for those so they have probably realized it was a foolish move for something that costs them around 50 cents). I had two street tacos that were even better than Poco Loco's and that is saying a lot since I love Poco Loco's food.

Not sure why they serve breakfast since they don't open until 10 a.m. My friend asked if there was any word on their liquor license and she told him the state said it was approved but refused to give them an official date which I thought was strange. On their home page they state their liquor license will come sometime this month.

We biked down to Poco Loco after for a margaritta and that place was packed and then went next door to Clario for dessert.

I think Cilantro has a chance of doing well if they keep the service up and get a liquor license.

posted by jamesteroh on Jul 09, 2017 at 02:16:59 pm     #  

For anyone who wants to check out Cilantros, there's a $30 gift card for $15 on Half Off Toledo.

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 09, 2017 at 04:15:06 pm     #  

We went to Poco Loco last night about 8:30, it was packed , told it was about 45 minute wait for a table if we wanted food, decided to go wait and sit/order a drink in that other room, that bar area with a musician. That room was almost full also.

We were initially told we could order drinks only in that room, but after about 15 minutes they started letting people in that room order food also. Took almost an hour to get our food , I think because they weren't used to tables in both rooms ordering food, but it sure was worth the wait, it was so good. This time I got the grilled pineapple with shrimp, delicious. Our waitress was awesome.
Their homemade sangria is really good, too.
The OT was doing a good business, too, lots of people milling around in and outside, having fun. Nice to see uptown doing well !

posted by foodie88 on Jul 09, 2017 at 04:26:32 pm     #  

Pier 7 still not open last night. It was pretty crowded with the volleyball crowd and the restaurants all doing good business. Ended up at El Vacquerro on the patio with a good view of the ProMedica construction nearing completion.
Pier 7 is missing out on the prime time of the season !

posted by Hoops on Jul 13, 2017 at 08:45:00 am     #  

They only announced it last month! Give them some time. :)

posted by upso on Jul 13, 2017 at 11:18:57 am     #  

I looked inside the building and it looked like they had a lot in there

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 13, 2017 at 11:44:36 am     #  

I know the guy doesn't have a lot of credibility based on his previous dealings as cited in above posts, but......

It looks really good, seems to be doing it right and the concept, especially when volleyball is going is great for that area. Should attract people.

Now if only we can get a water taxi eventually between promedica park and the docks.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:07:17 pm     #  

I know the guy doesn't have a lot of credibility based on his previous dealings as cited in above posts, but......

It looks really good, seems to be doing it right and the concept, especially when volleyball is going is great for that area. Should attract people.

Now if only we can get a water taxi eventually between promedica park and the docks.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:07:18 pm     #  

I love the idea of a water taxi. Better yet open up the old shooters bar and have a water taxi between there and the docks.

Boyfriend and I love to walk but it's a pain to get to the docks on foot from Downtown. I think it would be great to have a shuttle the runs every hour between Uptown, the Warehouse District and the Docks.

I wish there was an option like the docks on the east side of Summit street.

posted by classylady on Jul 13, 2017 at 12:55:08 pm     #  

Maybe Im off course, but I dont think The Docks has been done a whole lot of favors by the City of Toledo and ODOT. MLK Bridge closing and extensive delay, horrible condition of that access road, Miami St bridge closing for a year and a half......the list goes on. I love the concept of The Docks, not to mention it offers a visually appealling aesthetic to look at from Downtown. Gives life to both sides of the river. But it is well past time to fix that area up. Parking lots and lighting are terrible. That road is a joke. Dress up that area and make it a destination. This wont require a major investment either.

posted by BulldogBuckeye on Jul 13, 2017 at 02:21:45 pm     #  

That road is horrid. Top 5 worse roads in Toledo and there is A LOT of competition.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 13, 2017 at 02:41:58 pm     #  

I think I see an opportunity here. Kind of like the golf cart and pedicab thing only gondolas for a water taxi service. Now I just need a name. How about Charon's water taxi service. When the Maumee freezes over we could switch to dog sleds. What do you think?

posted by Wydowmaker on Jul 13, 2017 at 03:01:40 pm     #  

Bob Brooks, the original owner of the Sandpiper tried to be a taxi between both sides in the late 80s. Then the owner who bought the boat also tried. The Sandpiper has a new owner now. MAYBE they can make something happen?

posted by golddustwoman on Jul 13, 2017 at 05:00:37 pm     #  

Just messaged Pier 7 and they said this:

"Our first event with a charity will be July 21st-July 23rd, and we will release a grand opening after. Look out for tickets. Come check us out! Thank you for your interest!!"

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 13, 2017 at 07:04:19 pm     #  

golddustwoman posted at 05:00:37 PM on Jul 13, 2017:

Bob Brooks, the original owner of the Sandpiper tried to be a taxi between both sides in the late 80s. Then the owner who bought the boat also tried. The Sandpiper has a new owner now. MAYBE they can make something happen?

If any of you downtown coffee hipsters remember Jodi from Biggby... that's who owns the Sandpiper now.

Personally... I don't think that's the right vessel to be a taxi. Although it could work. A real water taxi built for boarding and a little smaller than the sandpiper with modern propulsion system would be key. You could drop people anywhere, and you could nose up to the end of the floating dock when there are boats all along it. You could also drop people at the yacht basin behind the hotel next to One Seagate.

posted by justread on Jul 13, 2017 at 07:50:08 pm     #  

Lots of rules for ferrying boat passengers, however. Lots and lots.

posted by justread on Jul 13, 2017 at 07:51:46 pm     #  

Once everything really starts moving along downtown, do you think the city will start reaching out to attract more boaters ?

I hate to sound like an old timer, but back in the Portside days, the boaters really brought a lot of revenue to downtown.

It would be nice to see that again !

The boaters enjoyed docking and going to the restaurants downtown, and the city seemed to welcome them. We had a couple boats back in the day, and really had a good time docking and hanging out downtown.

I don't see or hear anything now though, as far as the city trying to attract the boaters downtown. Whats the deal ?

posted by foodie88 on Jul 13, 2017 at 08:22:58 pm     #  

I was a contractor at OI in the mid 90's. I seem to remember some form of water taxi then. I don't remember ever taking it, but lots of talk about there being one. Do I remember that correctly?

posted by JoeyGee on Jul 13, 2017 at 09:59:24 pm     #  

At one time, I thought that a small, yellow boat taxied people across the Maumee River in downtown Toledo.

posted by jr on Jul 13, 2017 at 10:18:48 pm     #  

Promedica has sold Fort Industry square to a developer. Will announce the buyer soon and they sold it for the price they paid.

I was personally hoping Promedica spearheaded the redevelopment because we know they will do it right and efficiently. However, I am sure they have carefully selected the developer as that property is critical to the space Promedica has already developed.

Anyone have any idea or hear any rumors of the buyer?

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 08:04:09 am     #  

Xbuckeyex posted at 08:04:09 AM on Jul 14, 2017:

Promedica has sold Fort Industry square to a developer. Will announce the buyer soon and they sold it for the price they paid.

I was personally hoping Promedica spearheaded the redevelopment because we know they will do it right and efficiently. However, I am sure they have carefully selected the developer as that property is critical to the space Promedica has already developed.

Anyone have any idea or hear any rumors of the buyer?

Where have you heard this?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 14, 2017 at 09:10:46 am     #   1 person liked this

The theory here being if they announce they are planning it, it has actually already happened?

posted by justread on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:04:53 am     #  

The rumor has been Prater since early this year.

posted by slowsol on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:20:55 am     #  

justread posted at 10:04:53 AM on Jul 14, 2017:

The theory here being if they announce they are planning it, it has actually already happened?

Correct. Oostra and Promedica have a track record of following through when they announce a development. Obviously, not 100%, but he isn't known to just spout off and not produce.

Prater - is that the Michigan developer of Berdan Building?

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 10:55:37 am     #  

Why aren't we using local developers for more of these projects instead of using Michigan Developers?

I think they are doing a great job on the projects but why are we giving tax money that comes from local and Ohio taxpayers to companies in Michigan like Eyde where we know the profits won't be put back in the local community

posted by classylady on Jul 14, 2017 at 12:43:44 pm     #  

For whatever reason, we don't seem to have many, if any, good local developers for these major renovations of old buildings. Plenty can do new construction.

posted by Xbuckeyex on Jul 14, 2017 at 01:30:37 pm     #  

FYI: the Adams Street Cafe started serving breakfast as of today

posted by upso on Jul 24, 2017 at 07:49:48 am     #  

upso posted at 07:49:48 AM on Jul 24, 2017:

FYI: the Adams Street Cafe started serving breakfast as of today

Menu?

posted by ckbeats21 on Jul 24, 2017 at 12:38:50 pm     #  

They only posted a glimpse online... best to call or stop in to confirm:

https://www.instagram.com/theadamsstreetcafe/
https://www.facebook.com/theadamsstcafe/

posted by upso on Jul 24, 2017 at 01:06:08 pm     #  

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