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Wrong-way drunk driver kills five on I-280

"I don't know why he decided to leave." - said the brother of the drunk driver

9-1-1 audio [3.8 mb] at ToledoBlade.com.


Drunk driver kills four children and one adult and injures two more children and another adult. Police Sgt. Richard Murphy said the crash was the worst he could remember during his 41 years as an officer. The victims were on their way to Maryland after a holiday visit in Michigan.

The drunk driver was driving northbound on southbound I-280. The mostly head-on collision occurred near the ramp from southbound I-75 to southbound I-280 near the Manhattan Boulevard overpass. The drunk driver entered I-280 from Navarre Ave in Oregon.

The drunk driver's blood-alcohol level was 0.254 percent. The legal limit is 0.08 percent.

The drunk driver was partying with family at a local hotel where they had rented a room. Some reports say it was the Rodeo Bar [ map ]. He was not suppose to be driving, but he abruptly left the party without telling anyone, and he took off with his brother's pickup truck.

The brother at the hotel got concerned and called the drunk driver's cell phone. The drunk-driving brother said, "Sorry, bro." Their sister, who is pregnant, was supposed to drive them home.

After leaving the party, the drunk driver stopped at Taco Bell on Navarre Ave. Employees of the restaurant where the drunkard had purchased food called police to report the driver's condition.

Only six minutes elapsed between the first 9-1-1 call by the Taco Bell worker and the accident. The Taco Bell workers had the drunk driver stopped in the drive-through, but he got away before the police arrived.

The call from Taco Bell came at 10:45 p.m. and recordings of police dispatch activity showed Oregon police responded immediately. Four minutes later, the drunk driver eluded police.

Two more 9-1-1 calls by motorists on I-280 described the drunk driver's wrong-way path. The Oregon dispatcher alerted Toledo police. Toledo police confirmed they had received numerous frantic calls about a pickup truck driving the wrong way on the freeway.

Police estimate the drunk driver drove at least 3 miles in the wrong direction before hitting the other vehicle.

After the fatal accident, a motorist on the scene noticed the drunk driver walking around and complaining about jaw pain.

The drunk driver was combative at times and refused to submit a blood sample. Police got a search warrant to obtain the sample.

The drunk driver was under guard at the hospital. He will likely be released later in the day on Dec 31, and then he will be arrested and charged with five counts of aggravated vehicular homicide. The charge is a second-degree felony. Minimum penalty is two years in prison. Maximum penalty is eight years.


Dec 31, 2007 local media stories :

WNWO story

Excerpts from the NBC 24 WNWO story :

They identified the [drunk] driver of the pick-up as 24-year-old Michael Gagnon, of Adrian, Michigan.

Investigators said the victims were among eight family members traveling in a minivan. Killed were 36-year-old Bethany Griffin, 10-year-old Jordan Griffin, 10-year-old Haley Burkman, 7-year-old Lacie Burkman, and 6-month-old Vadi Griffin. Injured in the crash were 36-year-old Danny Griffin, 8-year-old Sidney Griffin, and 8-year-old Beu Burkman. All were from Parkville, Maryland.

Toledo police are still conducting their investigation but say the accident happened around 10:55 p.m. when Gagnon was allegedly driving a large F-350 Ford pick-up traveling in the wrong direction on I-280 going northbound in the southbound lanes. He struck the Chevy Astro van nearly head-on, sheering the right side off. Witnesses described the accident scene saying there were Christmas presents, an infant car seat, and debris all over the expressway.

Police have been able to piece together a series of events leading up to the fatal crash. Investigators say Gagnon allegedly left a bar in Oregon, Ohio. He stopped at a Taco Bell on Navarre Avenue where employees at the drive-thru said he was noticeably intoxicated. They called 9-1-1, but Gagnon left before police arrived. Gagnon started his deadly trek on I-280 at Navarre Avenue, going northbound in the southbound lanes.

Meanwhile Danny Griffin was driving his family home to Maryland after visiting family in Michigan for the holidays. He was on the ramp from southbound I-75 to southbound I-280 when the two vehicles collided.

Police said that both drivers tried to avoid one another, but struck nearly head-on. The force of the crash sheared off the right side of the minivan and ejecting several passengers. Four of the victims died at the scene and 6-month-old Vadi Griffin, who was secured in a child seat, died at St. Vincent’s Mercy Medical Center.

Police said that Gagnon smelled of alcohol at the scene and was taken to St. Vincent’s Mercy Medical Center. Sgt. Jeff Pachell, one of the Toledo police investigators said that Gagnon was combative at times and refused to submit a blood sample. He said that Toledo Municipal Court Judge Timothy Kuhlman had to sign the search warrant to obtain the sample. Police say Gagnon was admitted to the St. Vincent I-C-U and will be charged once he is released. Charges of aggravated vehicular homicide are pending.

Meanwhile Danny Griffin and Beu Burkman are in stable condition. Sidney Griffin is in critical condition.

The 9-1-1 calls

Shelly Hymore of Toledo had just left the American Legion Post and was heading with two friends to grab a late meal on Woodville Road in Northwood. She was in her car with her friends traveling on I-280 southbound near Starr Avenue, when Gagnon’s truck went speeding by her in the wrong direction. “I was driving and saw the headlights. I thought the truck was in the northbound lanes, then realized he was heading for me. He went by me at a high-rate of speed. I immediately called 9-1-1,” she said.

That wasn’t the first call that Gagnon was apparently driving drunk in the area. At 10:46 p.m. employees at the Taco Bell on Navarre Avenue in Oregon, Ohio notified police after describing an intoxicated driver who stopped at their drive-thru. “They said the man smelled of alcohol and had obvious slurred speed,” said Ted Moore, Oregon police officer who responded to the call. “When I arrived, he had already left.”

Officer Moore actually spotted a black truck heading westbound on Navarre as he responded to the call at the Taco Bell. But the truck had a ladder attachment to it, and that was not mentioned during the 9-1-1 call --- Plus the initial 9-1-1 call came in as a man passed out at the Taco Bell. So Officer Moore continued towards the Taco Bell. “That was probably his truck that I spotted on Navarre, but by the time I got to the Taco Bell, and investigated, he already had too much time on me,” Moore said.

Officer Moore said that the logical assumption is Gagnon allegedly started his deadly trip on I-280 at Navarre Avenue, going north in the southbound lanes. Almost immediately 9-1-1 calls started coming in. “We had a call of a wrong way driver shortly after he left the Taco Bell. That call came from someone who spotted him between Starr Avenue and Navarre Avenue,. That call got transferred to Oregon because the caller said they were near Navarre Avenue,” said Moore.

Detroit News story

Excerpts from the Detroit News story :

In an interview with the Baltimore Sun, Michael Gagnon's brother, Samuel, said he, his brother and a number of cousins were partying at a hotel near Toledo where they had rented a room. Samuel Gagnon said his brother -- who wasn't supposed to be driving -- abruptly left the party without telling anyone.

"I don't know why he decided to leave," Samuel Gagnon, 21, said by telephone. "Everyone's in shock. We're supposed to be celebrating the New Year, but now I got to look forward to my brother in jail the rest of his life."

Their sister, who is pregnant, was supposed to drive them home, but Gagnon said he discovered that his brother had abruptly left and had taken his pickup truck, which they use for their construction business in Adrian. Worried, Gagnon said he called his brother's cell phone.

He said his brother answered the phone and simply said: "Sorry, bro." Later, an official from the Toledo Fire Department got on the phone and told Samuel Gagnon that his brother had been in an accident. According to Gagnon, he and his brother were planning to travel to Iowa within a few days to start work in the construction. Gagnon said he and other family members were turned away when they tried to visit their brother in the hospital.

Police Sgt. Richard Murphy said the crash was the worst he could remember during his 41 years as an officer. "I can't recall having five at one time, ever," said Murphy, who reported that Gagnon was under guard at the hospital. Murphy said Gagnon will likely be released later today and then will be arrested.

Another Detroit News story

Excerpts from an updated Detroit News story :

It took just a half-dozen minutes: From the dutiful fast-food worker alerting police to a drunk driver, to the policeman who just missed him, to the frantic calls from motorists alerting authorities to the impending tragedy.

"A truck came at us, going the wrong way on the highway," a woman told a suburban Toledo police dispatcher shortly before midnight Sunday, according to a tape of the conversation obtained by The Detroit News. "That's not good," the dispatcher responded.

A few minutes and less than 4 miles later, the driver, a 24-year-old from Michigan who police say was drunk, plowed into a Chevrolet Astro minivan along Interstate 280 in Toledo. The crash occurred when a Ford F-350 pickup truck driving the wrong way on the freeway struck the van carrying eight people. According to reports, the crash near Manhattan Boulevard was so horrific that it sheared the minivan in two along its right side.

The 911 tapes chronicle a desperate attempt by police to catch Gagnon after he was spotted by a Taco Bell worker in the small community of Oregon, Ohio. The worker, noticing Gagnon appeared intoxicated, phoned police. "I work at Taco Bell and there this guy. He's drunk ..." said an employee identified as Jacob. "We've got him stopped in our drive-through right now and I just wondered if you could send someone over to stop him or pick him up."

The call came at 10:45 p.m. and recordings of police dispatch activity showed Oregon police responded immediately. "We're sending somebody over there right now," a male dispatcher said. Four minutes later, it appeared Gagnon had eluded police. "I'm sure I passed him," one officer responded. Then, in two similar calls, motorists on Interstate 280 reported Gagnon's wrong-way path.

By now, as Gagnon sped the short few miles out of Oregon and into Toledo, an Oregon dispatcher alerted Toledo police. "He was drunk over at Taco Bell," she said. "We couldn't catch him." Police estimate Gagnon drove at least 3 miles in the wrong direction before hitting the Griffin van. Toledo police confirmed they had received numerous frantic calls about a pickup truck driving the wrong way on the freeway.

According to police reports, the Griffin family was returning to their home in Parkville, Md., after visiting relatives in Michigan. Police said the tragedy began when Gagnon left a bar in Oregon, Ohio -- identified by some reports as the Rodeo Bar -- and headed to a nearby Taco Bell. Restaurant personnel notified police that an intoxicated driver was on the premises, but Gagnon had left by the time police arrived.

Police Sgt. Richard Murphy said the crash was the worst he could remember during his 41 years as an officer. "I can't recall having five at one time, ever," said Murphy, who reported that Gagnon was under guard at the hospital. Murphy said Gagnon will likely be released later today and then will be arrested.

Detroit Free Press

Excerpts from a Detroit Free Press story :

Gagnon was charged with five counts of aggravated vehicular homicide and had a blood-alcohol level of 0.254, according to warrants filed today in Toledo Municipal Court. The charge is a second-degree felony. Minimum penalty is two years in prison. Maximum penalty is eight years.

The warrants state Gagnon was driving a 2005 Ford F350 super duty pickup truck north in the southbound lanes of I-280 when he struck a white 1999 Chevrolet Astro van driven by Danny Griffin Jr. nearly head-on on the I-280 south ramp from I-75 south. His truck ripped off the passenger side of the minivan, causing several people to be thrown from the van, according to the court records.

Toledo police have scheduled a 3:30 p.m. news conference at police headquarters in downtown Toledo to discuss the accident.

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"now I got to look forward to my brother in jail the rest of his life."

Let's hope that's indeed the case and I'm not sure that's punishment enough.

posted by McCaskey on Dec 31, 2007 at 12:13:40 pm     #



Amen McCaskey, AMEN!

posted by justsimplyholly on Dec 31, 2007 at 12:52:58 pm     #



I am sickened by the drunken idiocy of Michael Gagnon, and I can only hope that the tragedy can make an impression on enough inebriated people to cough up the car keys when they become intoxictaed, thus preventing some future horrors like those faced by the the remaining Griffin family members.

Not that there is ever an ideal time to die, but there is something especially disturbing about holiday tragedies. I can't even imagine the devastation this will mean for the Griffins as they gather together for subsequent holiday celebrations, which will forever be somber occasions for them.

posted by historymike on Dec 31, 2007 at 01:33:37 pm     #



I had drove past the accident last night. I really couldn't tell what had happened until this morning when I heard it on the news. I was sicken about it. Such young lives lost. A family destroyed by a drunk driver.

I thank my kids for fighting at Walmart on Central. Their bickering caused me 15mins delay of getting on the highway home. This could have been us.

Please people, if you go out to celebrate tonight, DO NOT DRINK AND DRIVE!!!

posted by ToledoLatina on Dec 31, 2007 at 01:45:35 pm     #



When all of this is sorted out I have two questions. If he was at a bar (it's not clear yet if that's the case) doesn't the bar have some serious liability issues? What can this community do to support the survivors?

posted by holland on Dec 31, 2007 at 01:55:02 pm     #



holland,
from what I've heard and read, he was partying in a room at a hotel that he and some other family members had gotten a room(s) at for New Years. As for what we can do to support the survivors, I've thought and wondered the same thing. It will be difficult because of the fact that they live in Maryland, but I hope that someone can come up with something to let them know that the community does care!

posted by justsimplyholly on Dec 31, 2007 at 02:35:25 pm     #



If there was ever a case for officers to take a little detour and have the arrestee fall down a flight of stairs six or eight times, this is it....

posted by Ace_Face on Dec 31, 2007 at 04:05:41 pm     #



Holland:

Yes, bars have some legal responsibility, as they are supposed to monitor the inebriation level of customers. It is against the law to serve alcohol to visibly intoxicated patrons under what collectively are known as dram shop laws.

The chronology with Michael Gagnon appear to be as follows:

1. Partied at an unknown motel with family members Sunday evening.

2. An inebriated Gagnon left the motel in his truck and drove to the Rodeo Bar in Oregon. It is unclear if he was served there, but at least two witnesses spotted Gagnon at the bar.

3. An inebriated Gagnon went to the Taco Bell on Navarre in Oregon, ordered food at the drive-thru, and at one point passed out in the drive-thru line. Taco Bell employees called the police.

4. After waking back up, Gagnon headed west on Navarre, turned north onto the southbound lanes of I-280, crossed the Maumee River on the new bridge, and crashed with the GRiffin van just east of I-75.

posted by historymike on Dec 31, 2007 at 04:36:59 pm     #



If EVER there was a case of "would of, could of, should of" this is it. Think of all the instances where someone might have intervened more forcefully. But, I don't fault anyone except the driver. Hindsight is always perfect. Life is imperfect.

posted by holland on Dec 31, 2007 at 04:45:23 pm     #



then he will be arrested and charged with five counts of aggravated vehicular homicide. The charge is a second-degree felony. Minimum penalty is two years in prison. Maximum penalty is eight years.

**********

There is no way on God's green earth that eight years is anywhere near enough punishment for this bozo. Eight years for each victim wouldn't be enough.
I'm not even sure the rest of his life in prison would be enough for his murdering of that family.

posted by OhioKat on Dec 31, 2007 at 04:53:42 pm     #



Not placing fault on anyone here but Gagnon, but, I wonder how long it took TacoBell to fill his order and send him on his way?

They were sure enough that Gagnon was drunk enough to call police; couldn't they have delayed filling his order long enough to give the Police enough time to arrive on the scene? Or did Gagnon just take off without his food?

It seems when you are in a hurry it takes forever to fill your order but when a delay is warrented it only takes 30 seconds.

Just an observation.

posted by KraZyKat on Dec 31, 2007 at 04:58:43 pm     #



KrazyKat:
Not sure if Taco Bell ever served Gagnon. The 911 tapes suggest that the TB employees tried to stall him until the cops came. They were certainly observant enough to call the cops.

OhioKat:

I am sure that the prosecutors will charge Gagnon with violating ORC 2903.06 Aggravated vehicular homicide with the specification that he also violated ORC 4511.19 Operating vehicle under the influence of alcohol or drugs during the homicides. This means it would be a first-degree felony, with up to 10 years in prison and a fine of $20,000 on each count.

If Gagnon has prior alcohol- or drug-related offenses, he could face a longer mandatory prison term under ORC 2929.142 Aggravated vehicular homicide - mandatory prison term.

Of course, if Gagnon accepts some sort of plea-bargain deal, he would face something less than this.

posted by historymike on Dec 31, 2007 at 05:09:03 pm     #



If he was that stinkin drunk and got served at the bar, the bar's got a huge problem. They had better have cameras that show his behaviour as normal and reasonable. Some habitual drunks can act perfectly OK. It doesn't sound like that was the case here. They can take his blood alcohol level measurement at the scene and extrapolate backwards to what it would have been at the bar. Alcohol metabolizes at predictable rates. Does the judge have discretion in sentencing? I'm thinking consecutive, rather than concurrent. 50 years oughta do it.

posted by holland on Dec 31, 2007 at 05:20:22 pm     #



Agreed that the bar could be in toruble, but proving he became drunk at the bar is tough. If they indeed served Gagnon, they would likely be named in a civil action, and face sanctions by the state liquor authorities.

As far as the judge is concerned, this jurist will be expected to stay within sentencing guidelines and pronounce a punishment in keeping with similar crimes. In this linked 2001 case, a drunk driver killed a state trooper in a vehicular homicide incident and received eight years in jail, but he would have received 16-1/2 years under a tougher law enacted in 2004.

posted by historymike on Dec 31, 2007 at 05:37:17 pm     #



An automobile culture is a deal with the devil and so is the drinking culture. Combine the 2 and you can make reasonably tragic statistical predictions.

The dram shop laws seem to be a joke. If bars cut off people legally drunk or visibly intoxicated, just about every bar would go under (like worse than smoking laws). They make most their money off the professional/degenerate drinkers and it's easier to serve someone then cut them off, which upsets more than a few people in the process.

In a world where Bud/Miller/Coors brag about making their products with high "drinkability" factor, that is making it as much like water in terms of taste and of quantities of it a person can binge drink, nothing will improve this anytime soon.

It's all about pushing product. A commercial culture versus a more thoughtful one.

posted by charlatan on Dec 31, 2007 at 05:46:04 pm     #



Mapping some of the news info.

posted by jr on Dec 31, 2007 at 05:50:59 pm     #



Left out of JR's Google map of the events of the tragedy:

1. Toledo Correctional Institution, perhaps the next destination for Gagnon. Hopefully he'll get a cell with a view of I-280 where he can see the road upon which he caused the deaths of so many innocents.

2. Circles of Hell, courtesy of Dante Alighieri, where Gagnon may be spending eternity.

posted by historymike on Dec 31, 2007 at 06:01:20 pm     #



In this linked 2001 case, a drunk driver killed a state trooper in a vehicular homicide incident and received eight years in jail, but he would have received 16-1/2 years under a tougher law enacted in 2004.

So here we have a situation where there were five fatalities. Hopefully the sentence is at least five times the amount the driver who killed the trooper got.

posted by McCaskey on Dec 31, 2007 at 06:41:56 pm     #



BTW, I just got back from dropping my son off at a party at his friends' parents house, and there seems to be police everywhere. In a three-mile or so stretch of Holland-Sylvania I saw one state trooper and two Sylvania Township patrol cars, all at different areas, watching traffic.

Think maybe last night's episode is on the minds of local law enforcement this New Years's Eve?

posted by McCaskey on Dec 31, 2007 at 06:49:15 pm     #



Per this afternoon's update at the top of the page :

He will likely be released later in the day on Dec 31, and then he will be arrested and charged with five counts of aggravated vehicular homicide. The charge is a second-degree felony. Minimum penalty is two years in prison. Maximum penalty is eight years.

Is it a max of eight years per fatality, or does the number of dead not matter because they all come under one charge? Hard to believe he could be out of prison at age 32 or 33 after killing five people.


The Detroit Free Press said today : "Toledo police have scheduled a 3:30 p.m. news conference at police headquarters in downtown Toledo to discuss the accident."

I have not seen any info about that conference, although I have not checked the news recently.

posted by jr on Dec 31, 2007 at 07:06:54 pm     #



At this point the brother is just as much at fault. He knew his brother was drunk and somehow he let his truck keys out of his control. As soon as he realized that his truck was taken by his drunk brother, he should have called 911.

What a shame. A true, true shame. Personally, I'd rather see the effort put forth on enforcing the no-smoking law switched over to monitoring drinkers leaving bars.

posted by tommy1 on Dec 31, 2007 at 07:52:26 pm     #



They monitor(ed) the drinkers leaving bars in Holland like hawks, to the tune of putting 2 bars in the same location out of business. While I'm not for putting businesses out of business I do agree that there needs to be better response time when a potential or known drunk driver is called in.

I had one time while driving that I called 911 because it was very obvious the car in front of me was being driven by someone with some type of intoxication problem. I followed the vehicle for better than 10 minutes while on the phone with 911 most of the time and the police STILL hadn't found us. I'm not sure if they ever did stop that driver because I had to turn off and he/she wasn't in front of me any longer. It's discouraging to try and do something to help and see no response at all.

posted by justsimplyholly on Dec 31, 2007 at 08:07:52 pm     #



This is a very sad story. But it pretty much comes down to either giving your keys to someone or knowing when enough is enough and not driving till your sober. which unfortunatly some people aren't smart enough to do that and this stuff happens.

As far as monitoring the bars goes. They tried monitoring the bars here in rossford and were threatened with a profiling lawsuit cause they pulled over someone who was the dd and was drinking coke all night.

It can be good and bad monitoring the bars,because you never know who is drunk and who isn't. Most of the time they would pull over the non-drunks and let the drunks go on their merry way.

If they do monitor the bars you have to be very careful on how they do it. Otherwise its a profiling lawsuit waiting to happen.

posted by camaroman2125 on Dec 31, 2007 at 08:34:42 pm     #



I've dealt with enough drunkards and druggies to conclude that Michael Gagnon wasn't thinking about ANY previous drunk drivers killing people (much less their punishments), and as well I have no doubt that the next drunk who does this will not be thinking about Michael Gagnon. They're drunkards. They're only thinking about themselves, and the rest of the world recedes into a hazy form of theatre. Other people are just annoyances and amusements during that period.

At the very least, Michael Gagnon's going to have to imagine five years without a drink of alcohol. Nay, not a drop. I hope it keeps him awake at nights. I hope he cries like a baby for another drink.

posted by GuestZero on Dec 31, 2007 at 10:40:05 pm     #



I don't think any punishment will be enough for those poor families involved.

There are several issues here to address. While alcohol is a legal drug that is accepted worldwide, why can't the punishments be stiffer? I am not against using/doing whatever you want in your own house, I am all for making the punishment extreme for those who take it out where they/it can hurt others. Accountability seems to be so rare. Whether it's the local politicians who do things with money when they know it was wrong or making up a false kidnapping story, these people must be made accountable. If you want to roll the big dice with the big boys, know that you could end up owing the house.

posted by tommy1 on Jan 01, 2008 at 04:20:33 am     #



Picture this:

Crowded bar. Loud music. Guy walks up to the bar and gets the bartenders attention. He points to the bottle of Budweiser that the guy sitting next to him is drinking and holds up his index finder.

Bartender brings him a bud, the drunk throws money on the bar and walks away. All while 20 other screaming people are vying for the bartenders attention.

Not a word was spoken.

Happens all the time. If you dont believe it, try it some time in a crowed bar.

Anyone pointing any fingers of blame toward the bar, taco bell, or anyone other than the drunk himself is out of their mind.

posted by billy on Jan 02, 2008 at 03:27:35 pm     #



Billy's right about that. Bartenders are in non-stop motion during the high volume belt, and no one gets checked to see if they are drunk or not. Then, of course, a bartender can try refusing service to a minority, any minority, and see what happens next. The bartender is prejudice, racist, and the target of multiple lawsuits.

I've called 911 about drunks before, and the only time I've gotten a good response was from the Ohio State Highway Patrol and the Sylvania Township PD. Both dispatched units immediately and took the situation seriously.

You know, I've read a lot of posts about the lack of severity of punishment, and it's all bull. It isn't the severity of the punishment that curtails an activity; It's the surety. Consider the red-light cameras at Secor and Monroe. Prior to the installation, virtually everyone ran the red light. Relatively few try that today, not because they are afraid of getting caught, but because they will certainly be caught and punished. People squawk to high heaven about privacy and revenue, which is more bull. People are squawking because they can no longer run the light with impunity.

Gagnon probably broke a dozen traffic laws, and not one of those laws prevented him from killing five people. Gagnon and people like him don't care about the law. My only thought here is that what Ohio needs is a much more stringent driver's exam along with a card reader built into the automobile, preventing unlicensed drivers from driving the car. Of course, that would cut down on licensed drivers which would affect car sales, so it isn't likely to happen.

posted by madjack on Jan 02, 2008 at 08:09:39 pm     #



Sure, add a laser eye identification machine in that car too. Maybe some gps equipment, a direct electronic link to the police to enable them to remotely shut down an auto......, anything else James Bond?

posted by tommy1 on Jan 02, 2008 at 09:00:48 pm     #



Madjack said: My only thought here is that what Ohio needs is a much more stringent driver's exam along with a card reader built into the automobile, preventing unlicensed drivers from driving the car.

Unfortunately, the kid was from Michigan so that wouldn't have made any difference...

posted by MaumeeMom on Jan 02, 2008 at 11:39:44 pm     #



Here's a quote from the Blade, "Mr. Gagnon also has two speeding tickets on his record and a charge of being a minor in possession of alcohol."

When is TPD going to get tough on kids and parents that are violating this law? A problem that can be recognized early, might be addressed and prevent events like this.

posted by tommy1 on Jan 03, 2008 at 03:38:20 pm     #



I am going to assume that all of the negative posters above have NEVER driven impaired?!?!?!?

Not saying what happened isn't tragic, but "the drunk" is also a human being as well.

Count your blessings.

posted by Ryan on Jan 05, 2008 at 08:46:07 pm     #



In today's 'Blah' (01-06-08) there's a quote from Doug Scoles, the Executive Director of MADD: "...on average, a person will drive drunk 87 times before they are convicted of the offense."

As much as I applaud anyone's efforts to keep drunks off the road, I question how Mr. Scoles arrived at the "87 times" before conviction.

Does one interview drunk drivers, asking them "Okay, now that you've been busted, exactly how many times have you driven drunk before this"

It strikes me that Mr. Scoles pulled this figure out of his ... in order to support his cause.

In my day, (as I hang my head in shame) I'd driven drunk a few times. Ask me to estimate how many? I have NO idea. If I asked people that I KNOW have driven drunk, I know they'd say "Sh*t, I dunno!"

"47.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot"

posted by GraphicsGuy on Jan 06, 2008 at 01:16:28 pm     #



Ryan said:I am going to assume that all of the negative posters above have NEVER driven impaired?!?!?!?

Actually, no, I have never driven drunk. I don't drink and have always been the DD.

However, as you say, Mr. Gagnon is human, and I do feel for him and his family as this will stick with them the rest of their lives. I do believe that he needs to be punished and I hope that he can put this experience to use by educating those at risk of repeating his mistake.

posted by MaumeeMom on Jan 06, 2008 at 06:40:05 pm     #



June 27, 2008 Toledo Blade - I-280 wrong way fatal crash driver, Gagnon, sentenced to 43 years

posted by jr on Jun 27, 2008 at 11:18:01 am     #